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Is this few words enough to convert?

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
The hadith which says that the prophet visited heaven and met God is meaningless
and can never be true simply because the prophet didn't know how God looks like
and also the hadith says that the prophet saw that the hell was full with women,
how is that and the judgement day didn't start yet, no punishment will start except
after the end of life on earth and after the judgement day.

People do a lot of crazy things and they make it part of the religion, watch for example
what the Shiaa muslim do in Ashora as part of their religion, it has nothing to do with
Islam but it's in my opinion crazy practice.


The same also with some Christians, it's crazy in my opinion

Well, we are evaluating here levels of craziness, so I would not be so casual. And please, remember that I am ecumenic. Ergo, I believe all religions deserve the same amount of respect. The latter computing to zero, pending additional evidence.

So do you, or do you not, believe that Mohammed accepted cab service to heaven in the form of a winged horse?

Ciao

- viole
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
You should face and follow the Imam, can you sit in the school in opposite direction and
give your back to the teacher?
Of course. I am vastly superior than any Imam. Are you such a wimp to accept people being superior to you?

But who cares about the Imam? He is a Nullnummer compared with God. What would God say if I pray in the opposite direction?

And where are the girls? That looks like a gay prayer meeting to me. You did not answer that, which seems like a confirmation that the picture shows a bunch of muslim gays praying in the same direction, the latter being arbitrarily determined by some Imam. Probably male, too. Right?

Ciao

- viole
 
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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Well, we are evaluating here levels of craziness, so I would not be so casual. And please, remember that I am ecumenic. Ergo, I believe all religions deserve the same amount of respect. The latter computing to zero, pending additional evidence.

So do you, or do you not, believe that Mohammed accepted cab service to heaven in the form of a winged horse?

Ciao

- viole

There is no such story in the quran, no I don't believe it since the prophet never saw God
and no one actually had saw God.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Of course. I am vastly superior than any Imam. Are you such a wimp to accept people being superior to you?

But who cares about the Imam? He is a Nullnummer compared with God. What would God say if I pray in the opposite direction?

And where are the girls? That looks like a gay prayer meeting. You did not answer that, which seems like a confirmation.

Ciao

- viole

You looks like Trump, you're superior, sometimes it's kind of mental disorder When
feeling super than others such as the superiority complex.

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viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
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You know men and woman pray in different rooms in the mosque?
Ach so. Now I remember. My husband, while we stopped in Dubai on the way to Australia, on a biological urge, confused the prayers rooms at the airport with the restrooms. The symbols outside are identical, for Thor's sake. Fortunately they were empty, otherwise we would have probably experienced some delay for our holidays in the South Pacific on account of him being stoned, or something. :)

And why on earth do you think that prayers rooms depend on the reproductive organ you possess? Does God care?

Ciao

- viole
 
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
She knows, but she's mocking.
She's even waiting for a grammar mistake to mock.
I know :) she can mock all she want, i am in the beginning of my journey and does not yet have all the answers to what to believe or not. I focus mostly on the Quran and the Sunnah for now, then the hadith that sunni teaching say is important. But again i have a long way to go, and can not yet call my self a muslim.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
I am not superior in English as you're.
That does not matter. I can fill the dotted lines.

So, where were we? Ach ja, the prayer room picture. So, where are the girls? Do they also have a Imam-girl sort of thing telling them where to pray to?

Ciao

- viole
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
As many of you guys know i have lately thought of converting to Islam, and yes one of the reasons is because of my girlfriend is muslim, and i have been asked by family if i by my own wish want to convert to Islam. There is no presure from them that i have to. Of course this is only one of many questions i must ask my self before accepting Islam in to my life fully.

But my main question is, i read that by saying one line of words out aloud i Will become a muslim. Is this true? I Will say it would be a lot more for me because i must learn the quran by heart and i know that is not easy.

The words i heard i must say is this : La ilaha illa Allah, Muhammad rasoolu Allah
If i say them truthfully, does that mean i am a muslim?

Please only serioues answers, its a serioues matter to me.
Simply no.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Ach so. Now I remember. My husband, while we stopped in Dubai, on the way to Australia, confused the prayers rooms in the airport with the restrooms. The symbols outside are identical. Fortunately they were empty, otherwise we would have probably experienced some delay on account of him being stoned, or something. :)

And why on earth do you think that prayers rooms depend on the reproductive organ you possess? Does God care?

Ciao

- viole

Because women feel more comfortable.
Read this
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Because women feel more comfortable.
Read this
What? That link is not addressing prayer rooms at all. Unless women in a mosque are at danger to be raped, like in some suburbs train station. Which, if true, would just confirm the misogynistic stereotype muslim men have.

Is that so?

Ciao

- viole
 
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Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
As many of you guys know i have lately thought of converting to Islam, and yes one of the reasons is because of my girlfriend is muslim, and i have been asked by family if i by my own wish want to convert to Islam. There is no presure from them that i have to. Of course this is only one of many questions i must ask my self before accepting Islam in to my life fully.

But my main question is, i read that by saying one line of words out aloud i Will become a muslim. Is this true? I Will say it would be a lot more for me because i must learn the quran by heart and i know that is not easy.

The words i heard i must say is this : La ilaha illa Allah, Muhammad rasoolu Allah
If i say them truthfully, does that mean i am a muslim?

Please only serioues answers, its a serioues matter to me.

I finally got to read enough about Falun Gong to "start" to understand it and now you are switching to Islam. I am going to have to change my neurologic wiring in my brain when I read you posts. It seems a large shift but then at one time considered I myself as a Christian. I hope you find the what you are looking for however if I were living in Norway I would go for Thor. Just one question if you don't mind.

What truth are you finding in Islam that was not there for you in Falun Gong?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I finally got to read enough about Falun Gong to "start" to understand it and now you are switching to Islam. I am going to have to change my neurologic wiring in my brain when I read you posts. It seems a large shift but then at one time considered I myself as a Christian. I hope you find the what you are looking for however if I were living in Norway I would go for Thor. Just one question if you don't mind.

What truth are you finding in Islam that was not there for you in Falun Gong?
I do not say Falun gong was any wrong, but i was not practicing the correct way, and had zero progression. And of some reason since i begun reading Islamic teaching my mind settle down like i never experienced before. I have not yet made the full convertion, but it does look like it heading that way.

I have for many years pushed toward what i thought was perfection within spiritual practice but realized i was not doing it correctly, my mind got angry when someone pushed my belief and faith. That has faided after i started reading the quran. I dont have the answer to why that happens.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
What? That link is not addressing prayer rooms at all. Unless women in a mosque are at danger to be raped, like in some suburbs train station. Which would just confirm the misogynistic stereotype muslim men have.

Is that so?

Ciao

- viole

Women feel more comfortable, it isn't about rape.
Why we have separated toilet for men and women, does it depend on the reproductive organs.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Women feel more comfortable, it isn't about rape.
Why we have separated toilet for men and women, does it depend on the reproductive organs.
Yes, and that is why my husband almost peed in a prayer room in Dubai airport.

But on what rational basis can you compare the way you pee to the way you pray? I am not an expert of Islam, so I might be wrong. Do you use your reproductive organ when you pray? How exactly? And what do you do with transexuals? A third room?

And I asked some muslim women here. They say YOU force them to use different rooms.

So, that sounds like the myth that muslim women dress like batman because that is what they want.

Ciao

- viole
 
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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Yes, and that is why my husband almost peed in a prayer room in Dubai airport.

But on what rational basis can you compare the way you pee to the way you pray? I am not an expert of Islam, so I might be wrong. Do you use your reproductive organ when you pray? How exactly?

Ciao

- viole

Peed on himself, why he did so?
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Peed on himself, why he did so?
Well, when he realised that there were carpets and such, he realised that it was not a restroom, fortunately. It would have been suboptimal to have hubby stoned to death on account of bad indications at the airport. We had a nice vacation in the pacific waiting for us.

About my latest question: how do you use your reproductive organs during prayer, in case you do?

Ciao

- viole
 
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