Is Pornography really degrading women?

[Primordial Annihilator]

You can't stop prostitution or porn...you can only drive it underground.

 

[Koldo]

Don't care enough to go down that road. If I can prove my point by the same logic that says two consenting adults should not be allowed to fight to the death, I am satisfied with that.

I said that i am fine with the idea of gladiator fights between two consenting adults, so how exactly did you prove your point?

Keep in mind you can not use current society standards to defend your argument, because your argument goes against them. In our current standards there are some things that are not allowed, and pornography is not one of them.

Also, once again, comparing a death match to sex is a joke.

No, I do not get it. I find liberal/libertarian theory to be absurd and morally bankrupt.

You are free to think whatever you wish. However, unless you can back it up by using convincing arguments then your beliefs won't do any good here.

How exactly is not allowing pornography-for-profit controlling our individual rights completely?

You should have read what i was replying to. You were talking about anarchy in that part of your reply, not about pornography. You seem to defend a position where the majority can meddle into people individual rights by no good reason, just because they want to. And i am completely against it.

Forgive me for not addressing every single point raised. I do not posses unlimited time. First of all, I am not sure there should be an age floor for drinking. Italy has no legal limit, if I am not mistaken, and my Italian sociologist professor tells me that students do not drink nearly as much alcohol as we do in the United States.

Secondly, I am less inclined to raise the driving age to 18, because driving has socially valuable outcomes. That is, an 18-year-old being able to drive a car allows him or her to commute to school or commute to work. I do not see such valuable outcomes with watching pornography. In fact, I see many more dangers than positives in the viewing of pornography.

You don't need unlimited time to properly reply that argument
By the way, you still didn't....

So let us start with the drinking: Italy and United States are different countries, different cultures, pretty much different realities.

Now onto driving, which is far more interesting: You simply forget that a driver has a big responsability in his hands. Surely there are positives points for being able to drive a car, however cars are dangerous machines. Many people die because of car accidents. If someone is given the responsability of driving a car, then why wouldn't this person be allowed to do porno movies?

You can actually die or kill people while driving. This is a fact. Driving has a much much much higher life risk than pornography. So why would you allow someone, who doesn't have the maturity to take part in porno movies, to drive a car?

 

[Darkness]

Now onto driving, which is far more interesting: You simply forget that a driver has a big responsability in his hands. Surely there are positives points for being able to drive a car, however cars are dangerous machines. Many people die because of car accidents. If someone is given the responsability of driving a car, then why wouldn't this person be allowed to do porno movies?

You can actually die or kill people while driving. This is a fact. Driving has a much much much higher life risk than pornography. So why would you allow someone, who doesn't have the maturity to take part in porno movies, to drive a car?

I feel like nobody actually reads what I actually write. I have already answered your question. The ability to drive a car has positive values to it, while I can find no positive values in pornography, so therefore the risks have no benefit, like they have with driving.

Good day, sir. I said good day.

 

[Vendetta]

I believe I have already stated that the intention of my analogies was not to say that all pornography is akin to violence. I am merely seeking to establish that most of us put restrictions on the limits of "adult consent."



Track down "Dissociation among women in prostitution" by Colin A. Ross, Melissa Farley and Harvey L. Schwartz. It does not with pornography, but it does investigate stripping, which is a more mild form of sex work than pornography.



I honestly have to do more research into pornography. My primary focus is on prostitution and sex trafficking. However, it given the high levels of PSTD, child sexual abuse, etc. in women who work on low-budget pornography (and the correlation with prostitution), I would be very surprised if the same problems were not present in more mainstream pornography (i.e. the kind that is packaged and wrapped).

I would definitely agree that sex trafficking does have a high correlation to PTSD which I am on board with you on that as well as prostitution. I am even willing to say pornography is in fact LEGAL prostitution but what makes poem acceptable is that the acts are no public, as in the perfomers are not in a compromised position which allows them to transgress societal law. Pornography is also controlled whereas street prostitution isnt-you have less freedom in a street setting. There may be a relationship with PTSD and hypersexuality among porn stars among other disorders (e.g. anti-social behavior) however your focus is more that which may narrow the truth a bit.

 

[joeyhouchin]

I like!

But on a more serious note, it may hurt them womens

 

[Rakhel]

One does not need to drive to get to school or work if one lives in an area with public transit, which is much greener for our environment. Not to mention that porn is a MUCH less dangerous way to spend time than, say, driving down the Long Island Expressway looking for the Long Island Lolita.

 

[Sunstone]

...I can find no positive values in pornography...

You didn't do your homework on porn, did you?

 

[blackout]

Is she single?

Yes... but.... she prefers men without horns...
or wives....

 

[Koldo]

I feel like nobody actually reads what I actually write. I have already answered your question. The ability to drive a car has positive values to it, while I can find no positive values in pornography, so therefore the risks have no benefit, like they have with driving.

Good day, sir. [youtube]MuNvxH5kSKU[/youtube]
I said good day.

You seem to be the one to don't read what i write
I do acknowledge the positive points of being able to drive a car, HOWEVER there is a big negative point that you just can't ignore. People do die and kill others while driving. A fact.

Once again i ask you, why would you allow someone that doesn't have the maturity to take part in porno movies to drive a car? Think well about it.

 

[Koldo]

Let put this in other words:

How can you allow someone to drive a dangerous machine with the ability to produce a real harm to others, and yet forbid this same person from being filmed while having a sex act with his consent?

 

[Gunfingers]

Yes... but.... she prefers men without horns...
or wives....

Hey, I have neither of those! Erm...for a given definition of "horn", anyway!

 

[Vendetta]

Hey, I have neither of those! Erm...for a given definition of "horn", anyway!

Why do I have the feeling that you have a pornstar name? Gunfingers??? Lol

 

[Gunfingers]

I have my share of skills in that area, but my name is inspired by this action!

 

[Vendetta]

I have my share of skills in that area, but my name is inspired by this action!

Hahahaha oh ok