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Is Genesis 1 confirmed by Dr. Hossenfelder?

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by questfortruth, Feb 3, 2020.

  1. questfortruth

    questfortruth Well-Known Member

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    ABSTRACT:
    In this post I would like to discuss with you my personal understanding of how to solve the contemporary crisis in cosmology, one aspect of which is given in the video below:



    ANTROPOCENTRICAL MODEL of UNIVERSE:

    As you could discover for yourself, there are videos (even from church pastor), that the Bible describes flatness at Earth, and the dome above us: "And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.”" Genesis 1:6.



    Can the Science support it?

    Yes, it seems it can. Fact: the Big Bang Cosmology tells the Scientists, that our Universe is not the Friedmann Closed model (like big sphere), but rather with flat space at global scale. Because there can not be any actual infinity in nature, then the Universe is bounded by a vault (dome), which separates spacetime from Absolute Nothing (in the sense of absence of spacetime, not the spiritual sense). It means, that Nothing is everywhere around us: in future, in the past, in all spatial directions.



    Such model explains the red-shift of light from distant galaxies not by expansion of space, but by ordinary Doppler effect, which comes from so called "Peculiar velocities" of the galaxies moving them away from our Galaxy. Then our galaxy is the symmetric unique center of our Universe. Looking then from other galaxies, there would be asymmetry in the distribution of red-shifts of the surrounding galaxies. In that model to hold spacetime flat one needs to use Dark Matter, and indeed, it is detected by NASA telescopes. The mathematics tells me, that there is major obstacle to get happy with this model: Nobel Prize for Dark Energy, in my model there can not be acceleration in the expansion of the galaxies (because of the Newton's First Law of inertia).

    Thus, I am very glad, that Dr. Sabine Hossenfelder promotes research, which questions the Dark Energy existence, look the video below. Secondly, in my model the gravity waves are suppressed by Dark Matter (because at global scale the spacetime is wave-less, flat), so I am glad, that in the video Sabine puts them in doubt as well. Thirdly, in the end of the video Sabine puts in doubt the major naturalistic principle "natural-ness", which brings the Science closer to spiritual realm of my model.



    ANOTHER EVIDENCE:

    Having the flat global scale spacetime in my model, one solves the paradox, which the Sir Newton has faced while calculating the gravity force in the infinite Universe. This force in Newton's analysis does not converge; as is given in this book: E. Brian Davies 2003, Science in the Looking Glass: What Do Scientists Really Know? Oxford University Press; 1 edition (October 9, 2003).
     
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  2. exchemist

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    You seem to be confusing a flat universe and a flat earth.

    btw science is all about people questioning existing hypotheses
     
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    Welcome to Gish City, brought to you by
    the dept of Woo Woo.
     
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    Nothing more need be said.
     
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  6. ChristineM

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    There goes 10 minutes of my life i can never get back.
     
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    I thought the name in the thread title said Hossenfeffer.

     
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  8. questfortruth

    questfortruth Well-Known Member

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    Let me be of use:

    there are beings that God did not create: “you are not of God. Your father is the devil” (Bible), and if
    so, that is, two Gods.



    Doubting whether God exists is called agnosticism. It arose because of such a logical error: two fundamental Gods are taken for one God.
    Do not get confused: there are only two Gods in the whole world: Existing and Non-Existing (Holy Spirit and evil spirit, cf. John 13:27).

    Since there is the Existing God and the Non-Existing god, the Existing God actually exists. Finally, has science proven the Existing God?
     
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    Science says about where we live on ONE planet O Earth rotating around its Sun, as the only relevant Planetary entity as compared to self, human living on our planet.

    That eventually our Sun will expire and become cold.

    Our Universe would conclude that we are dropping into colder space as we move away from the spatial creation that is hotter.

    16. 2 Corinthians 4:8-10 We are pressured in every way but not crushed; we are perplexed but not in despair, we are persecuted but not abandoned; we are struck down but not destroyed. We always carry the death of Jesus in our body, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body.

    https://www.quora.com/What-would-happen-if-the-Sun-became-smaller

    I would review God literature O about Earth and Satanism, about irradiating a planet in nuclear sciences, and ask why Satan falls into the Great Deep pit.

    With males claiming that Satan existed before God.....and God to a human was the philosophy of the stone body existing O as a planet.

    The spirit of a planet was pre burning before it became stone.

    So if you believe in God being Satan, then wouldn't you be confessing to dropping Earth into the spatial pit by science conditions as male scientific reasoning?
     
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    Hossenscheisse?:D
     
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    Another couple of minutes wasted
     
  13. questfortruth

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    I seem to be life-sucker (vampire).
     
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    I wouldn't say that. But ...
     
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    The status for space is a hole....a flat plane of nothingness.

    O the bodies that once owned the non existence of that space were expansive if you put their force and bodies back into that flat plane advice, as if they were filling up that spatial plane or hole.

    Natural human consciousness, where humans in memory use explain...no space once existed. A whole body was with the eternal body, and it was separated from its owned origins by space forming....as O the mass was forced up away from its pre owned expansive presence. Not really a flat plane, but it would in cold sense advice be an opening of that flat plane.

    How space a flat plane is expansive, for how else could it have opened into such an expansive model or a huge deep pit as stated? As the emptiness of space, unless that amount of mass was once the non space owner!

    O as the masses burnt irradiating, causing expansion by the heating of space!

    O expansion means the bodies of pre formed mass O never owned any space as MASS O...and took up and held their non spatial emptiness by held form.

    Therefore only when a MASS O is removed from existing is a real hole or empty space left. As the black hole model...without owning any energy or mass.

    A flat plane of space therefore cannot be energy owner or else it could not expand.

    It would hold its coldest form being the presence of MASS O for only extreme cold conditions could hold heated MASS O to be so cold and not be expanding.
     
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    The biblical interpretation of a flat Earth is completely wrong. The cultural Creation Stories deals with the entire creation of the Milky Way which is described as a "flattish structure" -and the first biblical mention of "earth" should be interpreted as "firm matter" which creates the initial "firm-a-ment".
     
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    The CMB ideas in the first video is IMO wrong. This background could just as well have been there for ever, but it is taken into the BB ideas of expansion which again is based on false measuring methods. It´s a hindsight bias method.
     
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    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    Abstract is right.

    Just not in the peer-review vernacular.
     
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    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    That and they should really stop calling themselves Dr's as if it is to convey academic credibility. They're not Dr's in the least. They are clergy. Reverend, Bishop, Iman, or whatever actually applies.

    That stupid and idiotic fad is just getting plain ridiculous and frankly has been way out of control.
     
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