ThePainefulTruth
Romantic-Cynic
I don't care about anyone being gay and I wish they'd just leave me alone about it.
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Is being gay a sin according to your religion?
- Thread starter AlphaAlex115
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I don't care about anyone being gay and I wish they'd just leave me alone about it.
Pudding
Well-Known Member
Are there any gay who would not just leave you alone about it but keep harassing you?
What do you mean by "leave you alone about it" ?
Katie Jones
New Member
Some people believe that being homosexual is a sin or a bad thing because that's what they were taught or because they think it's against their religion. They think that it's wrong to be ok with it or to accept it because they are worried from disappointment from God. Some people just don't like it because they think it's gross or they don't feel that way about the same sex. What people aren't realizing is they should actually look at the situation because every individual is different. I think people can't change who they are attracted to and if anything it's hard on the person who is realizing they feel that way about the same sex so the last thing they need is their peers and society making them feel worse. You don't have to be homosexual along with them, or promote it, or even support it, but you don't have to publicly reject the idea or put others down about their feelings. I think if anything, that would disappoint God because as any religious person who believes in him should know, he loves all people even if he doesn't agree with their choices. I think love is love. I think it's a strong beautiful feeling that people get for someone who they have grown close to and care about. If you are a man and it is accepted to love a woman, how come it is not acceptable to be a man and love a man? This is a very deep topic that unfortunately can probably never be resolved because our society is so closed minded and convinced that what they were taught is the only way to view things.
AlphaAlex115
Active Member
WHAT? "Any religious person knows"...??? Some religions do not believe in a God, and besides Christianity has its god hating people who are gay. It's in the bible, in the teachings in sermons, etc. etc.
AlphaAlex115
Active Member
what is a fact? how do you know they are facts bro?
Truthseeker
Non-debating member when I can help myself
The Bible says that homosexual actions are bad. It doesn't say anything about homosexuals. It makes sense because homosexuals can't help how they feel. Besides, God doesn't hate those who practice homosexuality, He just dislikes the action just as any just parent would.
FlyingTeaPot
Irrational Rationalist. Educated Fool.
Except the action is an abomination punishable by death. The god of the Old Testament is clearly not a understanding parent who just "dislikes" the action and goes aww shucks about it.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Various ways such as math, testing, careful observation, and experimentation that has been repeated and found to have an accurate hypothesis.
Lots of parent's don't dislike "the action."
Muffled
Jesus in me
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe God is the same today as He was then but He does things differently under the old covenant and the new covenant.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe the attribution was "just" parent not simply any parent.
AlphaAlex115
Active Member
the bible disagrees
AlphaAlex115
Active Member
you miss my point. im questioning the ontology of facts. saying facts are arrived at using a scientific discourse instead of a religious one or any one for that matter isn't saying anything at all to problematise the concept of "fact"
im not giving an inclination to one over the other by the by
Truthseeker
Non-debating member when I can help myself
Well, in the Old Testament disobeying your parents is also punishable by death. God was very strict in those days. Now all you have to do in the case of adultery is pay a fine instead of death. Homosexuality is the same.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Religion doesn't have a good track record when it comes to revealing facts. Such as, if we are to take everything the Bible says as fact, then pi would equal 3. But pi doesn't equal 3. We also know that all the languages of the world did not simultaneously develop or come from the same place of origin. We find no evidence to suggest a global flood. And if human parthenogenesis did happen, the offspring would be female.
AlphaAlex115
Active Member
You are literally just doing the same thing again. Justifying science over religion, and then here undermining religion to favour science.
You are totally missing my point. It is literally way over your head. That's not the same as saying that I don't agree with you.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
I'm not. I value facts over beliefs and don't care to insert beliefs where there are no facts.
AlphaAlex115
Active Member
I was discussing the ontology of facts.
All you say is "I believe in facts". Facts are great. They are better than beliefs.
I cannot overstate how absurd I find it is that you can so casually differentiate them.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
I believe alien life probably exists out there somewhere because the universe is so damn big and contains billions upon billions of stars with billions upon billions more planets. Though there existence seems plausible, there is no actual proof or evidence of their existence, so their existence is not a fact, but only something I believe.
Electricity must have a complete circuit to flow, or do much of anything, and the flow of electricity will always go towards a ground. These are facts, we can demonstrate them to be true, and we have several laws and formulas to explain the function and flow of electricity. Because of this evidence, because we can describe them and test them and consistently find them to be true, these are facts.
It's not absurd to casually differentiate between the two, it's nothing more than simply admitting what we have evidence for are facts whereas things that lack evidence are beliefs.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe not. The Bible is correct but those who think the Bible says that are not.