Is being gay a sin according to your religion?

[Saint Frankenstein]

The Church teaches that being gay isn't wrong, it's the sex acts that are wrong. However, I disagree with that and think it's a load of nonsense. The Church's teachings on sex are stuck in the Middle Ages and need a complete overhaul in light of new understandings on human sexuality and gender.

 

[viole]

The Church teaches that being gay isn't wrong, it's the sex acts that are wrong. However, I disagree with that and think it's a load of nonsense. The Church's teachings on sex are stuck in the Middle Ages and need a complete overhaul in light of new understandings on human sexuality and gender.

Ergo, the church teachings suffer from moral relativism or previous ignorance.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Ergo, the church teachings suffer from moral relativism or previous ignorance.

Ciao

- viole

What?

 

[Estro Felino]

Ergo, the church teachings suffer from moral relativism or previous ignorance.

Ciao

- viole

previous ignorance

 

[viole]

What?

Well, if the teachings require to be changed, then it can only be because of two reasons:

1) morality changes with society
2) morality does not change with society, the old teachings were simply wrong (because of lack of knowledge)

Your call.

Ciao

- viole

 

[viole]

previous ignorance

Which implies they have never been divinely inspired, assuming that the divine has never been ignorant at any point in time.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Well, if the teachings require to be changed, then it can only be because of two reasons:

1) morality changes with society
2) morality does not change with society, the old teachings were simply wrong

Your call.

Ciao

- viole

It means that we have a greater understanding of human sexuality than we did centuries ago and so we should take that new knowledge into consideration. It's like how we have greater scientific knowledge than we did before and should take heed of that, too.

 

[viole]

It means that we have a greater understanding of human sexuality than we did centuries ago and so we should take that new knowledge into consideration. It's like how we have greater scientific knowledge than we did before and should take heed of that, too.

Yes. So the old teachings were based on ignorance. Or lack of knowledge, if you prefer.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Yes. So the old teachings were based on ignorance. Or lack of knowledge, if you prefer.

Well, yeah. The cultures where those teachings came from were very different from ours now. A lot of things that are normal these days in terms of human sexuality and romantic relationships would be foreign to them. Modern Western ideas of marriage would be extremely different from how they viewed marriage.

 

[viole]

Well, yeah. The cultures where those teachings came from were very different from ours now. A lot of things that are normal these days in terms of human sexuality and romantic relationships would be foreign to them. Modern Western ideas of marriage would be extremely different from how they viewed marriage.

Therefore, those old teachings have not been inspired by the divine.

Correct?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Estro Felino]

Which implies they have never been divinely inspired, assuming that the divine has never been ignorant at any point in time.

Ciao

- viole

The Vatican for centuries was inhabited by Satan and his companions.
Witch-hunt, holy inquisition, hundreds of innocent people murdered.
Of course there was no divine inspiration at that time

 

[sojourner]

Ergo, the church teachings suffer from moral relativism or previous ignorance.

Ciao

- viole

Why is moral relativism a "suffering?"
There is both within church teachings, but that's to be expected, since the faith is living and not static.

 

[Estro Felino]

Why is moral relativism a "suffering?"
There is both within church teachings, but that's to be expected, since the faith is living and not static.

Moral relativism? Are you saying that homosexuality has become a fashion, now?

 

[AlphaAlex115]

Moral relativism? Are you saying that homosexuality has become a fashion, now?

Let's be honest, it is definitely more common now. During world war 2 it was much more rare.. just read books written in the 1940s or look at statistics etc.

 

[Sees]

Let's be honest, it is definitely more common now. During world war 2 it was much more rare.. just read books written in the 1940s or look at statistics etc.

How could they know when it was social suicide or worse to admit, be open or publicly demonstrative? When you didn't fall into the straight Christian who worshipped your country and loved capitalism category - you shushed up about it.

 

[AlphaAlex115]

How could they know when it was social suicide or worse to admit, be open or publicly demonstrative? When you didn't fall into the straight Christian who worshipped your country and loved capitalism category - you shushed up about it.

No I didn't. . I don't even know what capitalism is..

 

[Estro Felino]

Let's be honest, it is definitely more common now. During world war 2 it was much more rare.. just read books written in the 1940s or look at statistics etc.

maybe bisexuality...all right.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Therefore, those old teachings have not been inspired by the divine.

Correct?

People can only understand things with the best available information. Even the idea of God evolves throughout the Bible from being a more brutal tribal deity at times to the full revelation of God in the Person of Jesus Christ. We are always learning. As sojourner said, Christianity is a living faith.

 

[sojourner]

Moral relativism? Are you saying that homosexuality has become a fashion, now?

No, but it has been changed from aberrant behavior to a healthy orientation by medical professionals.

 

[samosasauce]

Gay is always okay! And so is pansexuality, bisexuality, demisexuality, asexuality, and promiscuity! No sarcasm at all, just in case you're wondering; I'm bisexual myself