Is according to Jews everything God's will?

[Skywalker]

Actually, it doesn't. Assuming Jesus's real name was Yeshua, it's the masculine form of the word Yeshuah which means salvation. It doesn't say where the salvation comes from. One may argue that it derives from Yehoshua, which means what you said it means, but once derived, it means something else.

Nobody can save. Only God saves.

 

[Harel13]

Nobody can save. Only God saves.

I didn't say who saves. I only explained to you the meaning of the name Yeshua, which you folks claim was the real name of Jesus.

 

[Skywalker]

I didn't say who saves. I only explained to you the meaning of the name Yeshua, which you folks claim was the real name of Jesus.

Yeshuah implies salvation comes from God because only God saves.

 

[Harel13]

Yeshuah implies salvation comes from God because only God saves.

Yeshuah does not imply salvation comes from God. All it means is "salvation", nothing more, nothing else. Also, Yeshuah wasn't Jesus's name according to Christianity.

 

[Skywalker]

Yeshuah does not imply salvation comes from God. All it means is "salvation", nothing more, nothing else. Also, Yeshuah wasn't Jesus's name according to Christianity.

Yeshuah implies salvation comes from God because there's only one Savior.

 

[rosends]

Hey, @Harel13 , did you ever notice I Sam 14:45 and II Sam 10:11?

 

[Harel13]

Hey, @Harel13 , did you ever notice I Sam 14:45 and II Sam 10:11?

Hah, excellent!

 

[Harel13]

Yeshuah implies salvation comes from God because there's only one Savior.

Yeshuah does not imply salvation comes from God. All it means is "salvation", nothing more, nothing else. Also, Yeshuah wasn't Jesus's name according to Christianity.

 

[Skywalker]

Yeshuah does not imply salvation comes from God. All it means is "salvation", nothing more, nothing else. Also, Yeshuah wasn't Jesus's name according to Christianity.

Yeshuah implies salvation comes from God by mentioning salvation because only God saves.

 

[dybmh]

Jesus never said that we should hate our parents. He said that we can't love them more than we love God. What did Jesus mean when He instructed us to hate our father and mother (Luke 14:26)? | GotQuestions.org

Sorry, that's doublespeak. If what youre saying is true, then Jesus cannot be trusted. His words are false.

 

[Harel13]

Yeshuah implies salvation comes from God by mentioning salvation because only God saves.

Yeshuah does not imply salvation comes from God. All it means is "salvation", nothing more, nothing else. Also, Yeshuah wasn't Jesus's name according to Christianity.

 

[Skywalker]

Yeshuah does not imply salvation comes from God. All it means is "salvation", nothing more, nothing else. Also, Yeshuah wasn't Jesus's name according to Christianity.

The name Yeshuah meaning salvation implies that Jesus is God because only God saves.

 

[Harel13]

@Skywalker

Strong's Hebrew: 3444. יְשׁוּעָה (yeshuah) -- salvation
1 Samuel 14:45 Hebrew Text Analysis

Are you sure salvation only comes from God?

 

[Harel13]

The name Yeshuah meaning salvation implies that Jesus is God because only God saves.

Yeshuah does not imply salvation comes from God. All it means is "salvation", nothing more, nothing else. Also, Yeshuah wasn't Jesus's name according to Christianity.

 

[Skywalker]

Sorry, that's doublespeak. If what youre saying is true, then Jesus cannot be trusted. His words are false.

Jesus didn't mean hatred in the sense of hating others, he meant an indifference to others in comparison to your attitude towards God. What did Jesus mean when He instructed us to hate our father and mother (Luke 14:26)? | GotQuestions.org

Some other translations make Jesus’ meaning a little clearer: “If you want to be my disciple, you must hate everyone else by comparison” (Luke 14:26, NLT, emphasis added), and the Amplified Bible says that a follower of Christ must “hate” his family members “in the sense of indifference to or relative disregard for them in comparison with his attitude toward God.” It is a “hatred” by comparison, not an absolute hatred.

It's like people who say they don't like pastors and priests and they think they are corrupt. The pastors and priests are whatever, they are human beings. You don't have to like them.

 

[Skywalker]

@Skywalker

Strong's Hebrew: 3444. יְשׁוּעָה (yeshuah) -- salvation
1 Samuel 14:45 Hebrew Text Analysis
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Are you sure salvation only comes from God?

1 Samuel 14:15 doesn't say that Jonathan was ultimately the one who delivered the people.

 

[dybmh]

Jesus didn't mean hatred in the sense of hating others, he meant an indifference to others in comparison to your attitude towards God. What did Jesus mean when He instructed us to hate our father and mother (Luke 14:26)? | GotQuestions.org



It's like people who say they don't like pastors and priests and they think they are corrupt. The pastors and priests are whatever, they are human beings. You don't have to like them.

Jesus didn't say what he meant? His words can't be trusted.

 

[Harel13]

1 Samuel 14:15 doesn't say that Jonathan was ultimately the one who delivered the people.

It does, actually. Yonatan saved Israel that day.

 

[Skywalker]

Jesus didn't say what he meant? His words can't be trusted.

Jesus used metaphors. What did Jesus mean when He instructed us to hate our father and mother (Luke 14:26)? | GotQuestions.org

Question: "What did Jesus mean when He instructed us to hate our father and mother (Luke 14:26)?"

Answer: First, we must take this verse in the context of the chapter. Jesus is teaching His disciples, and, like any good teacher, He gets His students thinking. In this case, He begins with a truth statement that is hard to understand. Then He clarifies it with a metaphor. The truth statement is Luke 14:26, “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.” It seems that, if we don’t hate our family, we can’t be Jesus’ disciple. Or is there more to this issue?

 

[Skywalker]

It does, actually. Yonatan saved Israel that day.

That's different from saying that Yonatan was a Savior to Israel.