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Irony of the evolutionary belief

Eli G

Well-Known Member
I don't answer to one liners comments, to personal attacks, nor to automatic posts that refer to the form rather than the content ...

I do not dialogue with any machine that is not capable of reasoning, as I do.

PS: This post is a clarification.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
If human evolution is such a magnificent process that supposedly took so many millions and millions of years... how is it that diseases based on human anatomy still exist? Isn't it supposed that after so much evolution there would no longer be human conditions like a simple seasonal flu? ;)
Why would you think that??
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
Viruses have never stopped being viruses, even if they have adapted. Humans (supposedly evolved) would have already self-generated a capacity to overcome the ancient diseases that still affect them, and it would be expected that long-range life is an innate need more valuable than the simple fact of multiplying and prolonging the species.

So instead of saying that they adapt and try to reproduce so that the species continues, the most logical thing would be that they look for a way to survive and perpetuate the proper individual existence, the true primary purpose of any living being. The desire to live forever is primary, but no evolutionary change will be able to reach that level of adaptation, immortality, because the adaptive capacity of animals is not what evolutionists believe.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
I don't answer to one liners comments, to personal attacks, nor to automatic posts that refer to the form rather than the content ...

I do not dialogue with any machine that is not capable of reasoning, as I do.

PS: This post is a clarification.
That's funny. I just explicitly responded to your earlier argument and you completely ignored the post and responded to it with a one-liner comment that was completely unrelated to what I wrote.

Weird how these rules of yours seem to apply to everyone except you. Not my fault you can't form a cogent argument.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
How come dinosaurs that were bigger and more "capable" of fighting than tiny viruses, didn't survive until now?
At the end of the Cretaceous a huge asteroid hit the earth in the are aof today's Yucatan peninsula 66 million years ago leaving a crater 180 km across. debri from the impact is found all over the earth. All large animals and many other species perished including dinosaurs. There was also evidence of the change in the environment of the earth that was causing the decline of the larger animals and the dinosaurs.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Viruses have never stopped being viruses, even if they have adapted.
Gee, I wonder what name we give to the process that results in viruses adapting?

Humans (supposedly evolved) would have already self-generated a capacity to overcome the ancient diseases that still affect them, and it would be expected that long-range life is an innate need more valuable than the simple fact of multiplying and prolonging the species.
Except those viruses, as already explained, are evolving too. We do and have developed immunity and resistance to many natural ills, but because these ills are ALSO evolving and changing over time, we can't somehow magically conjure up immunity to diseases that haven't yet evolved.

This is a facile argument.

So instead of saying that they adapt and try to reproduce so that the species continues, the most logical thing would be that they look for a way to survive and perpetuate the proper individual existence, the true primary purpose of any living being. The desire to live forever is primary, but no evolutionary change will be able to reach that level of adaptation, immortality, because the adaptive capacity of animals is not what evolutionists believe.
This paragraph just makes no sense. Can you re-state your argument?
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
Honestly, I have no intention of dwelling on imaginary scenarios. The evolutionary doctrine is created based on speculations of what the past may have been like... My questions are based on realities that I contemplate, not on imaginary ideas that are like myths. I am not going to adapt my dialogue to those myths other than what they really are: assumptions.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Honestly, I have no intention of dwelling on imaginary scenarios. The evolutionary doctrine is created based on speculations of what the past may have been like... My questions are based on realities that I contemplate, not on imaginary ideas that are like myths.
There is no "evolutionary doctrine."
Your premise is false.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Honestly, I have no intention of dwelling on imaginary scenarios. The evolutionary doctrine is created based on speculations of what the past may have been like... My questions are based on realities that I contemplate, not on imaginary ideas that are like myths. I am not going to adapt my dialogue to those myths other than what they really are: assumptions.
Not a single response to anything anyone else has written.

Not big on debates, are you?
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
I don't answer to one liners comments, to personal attacks, nor to automatic posts that refer to the form rather than the content ...

I do not dialogue with any machine that is not capable of reasoning, as I do.

PS: This post is a clarification.
A humble reminder.
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
As much as I try to imagine the scenario where some animals change shape and become other species at the same time as the conditions of their environment change, I cannot see any coherence in that.

Each animal requires a specific environment. This is how they were created, and changes (some small and some drastic) in the environment that surrounds them can lead them to vary certain characteristics, but with well-established limits.

We have seen flies trapped in ancient ambers. They have no basic differences with modern flies. They were as flies as the ones now. If the environment of their time was so different from ours, how come they are so similar to modern flies?

This happens because the changes that evolutionists attribute to the adaptation process are not as drastic as they suppose.
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
My debate is about reasoning about ideas, not about winning arguments.

I am content to help others take into account some reasoning on some topics of discussion.

The more alternative reasoning readers have, the more information they can have to draw intelligent conclusions.

PS: this was a clarification ... NO FOR DEBATE. ;)
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Honestly, I have no intention of dwelling on imaginary scenarios. The evolutionary doctrine is created based on speculations of what the past may have been like... My questions are based on realities that I contemplate, not on imaginary ideas that are like myths. I am not going to adapt my dialogue to those myths other than what they really are: assumptions.
You mean like the Biblical Creation myth and Noah's Ark and the World Flood.
 
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