interpretation of some passages of scripture

[savagewind]

To get back to the original post, what does the faithful and discreet slavehave to do with Rev. chapters 11,12, 13?

 

[anonymous9887]

7 By faith Noah, being warned [of God] concerning things not seen as yet, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; through which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith.

Hebrews 11:7
katakrinó: to give judgment against
Original Word: κατακρίνω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: katakrinó
Phonetic Spelling: (kat-ak-ree'-no)
Short Definition: I condemn
Definition: I condemn, judge worthy of punishment.

 

[savagewind]

1 Peter 4:5 uses a different greek word. that means something different
krinó: to judge, decide
Original Word: κρίνω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: krinó
Phonetic Spelling: (kree'-no)
Short Definition: I judge, decide, think good
Definition: (a) I judge, whether in a law-court or privately: sometimes with cognate nouns emphasizing the notion of the verb, (b) I decide, I think (it) good.

I think the point is that if someone can do righteousness it means it is possible so that if someone else doesn't do it it means that he is judged he DID'NT do it.

 

[anonymous9887]

To get back to the original post, what does the faithful and discreet slavehave to do with Rev. chapters 11,12, 13?

Well the watchtower society has a pretty wild theology on these passages. The application is on their organization, but something doesnt sound right

 

[savagewind]

Well the watchtower society has a pretty wild theology on these passages. The application is on their organization, but something doesnt sound right

I think they say they are everything good which is prophesied. I think you may be right, "it doesn't sound right".

 

[anonymous9887]

I think the point is that if someone can do righteousness it means it is possible so that if someone else doesn't do it it means that he is judged he DID'NT do it.

Yes but jesus does have the keys to death and the grave, so he gives life to whom ever he chooses (of course there is a set standard)

 

[savagewind]

Yes but jesus does have the keys to death and the grave, so he gives life to whom ever he chooses (of course there is a set standard)

I agree with you. Balloons and fireworks!

 

[anonymous9887]

I agree with you. Balloons and fireworks!

well catch you later, going to bed.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Hello, I have been looking at these passages for quite some time, i am curious to see what other serious bible students interpret and when these passages take place.

1. Don't know. Don't really care.

2. Oh, look: a city in a contested area will be fought over like it always has been.

3. What happened after that? Was she okay?

4. What if I think the author is blaspheming?

Revelation is itself an abomination of desolation; a distraction, inspiring delusions of grandeur.

Indeed. It's revenge porn that sacrifices substance for Michael Bay-ish special effects.

Your no help at all. We know you have your beliefs, but the purpose of the thread is to provide a plausible interpretation of what it could possibly mean. If not, I have no idea what u are doing on this thread, not contributing any insight on those passages.

The insight is not to give too much credit to the revenge porn of someone bitter he ended up in jail.

7 By faith Noah, being warned [of God] concerning things not seen as yet, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; through which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith.

And then proved his righteousness by getting wasted and blaming some grandkid because one of his son's saw him naked and wasted, which was his own fault.

Biblical heroes: trying to avoid personal responsibility since ... well ... forever...

 

[Acim]

Hello, I have been looking at these passages for quite some time, i am curious to see what other serious bible students interpret and when these passages take place.

Matthew 24:45

Rhetorical inquiry - calling for devotion and discernment in listening / being with Holy Spirit, which provides spiritual fulfillment.

 

[savagewind]

I know they are not related. This thread is not for contesting the Bible, it is to figure out what the book is telling us.

The Bible does not "tell". Really. The people who wrote it were TRYING to "tell" someone something perhaps. If God has anything to do with the writing of it, God is "telling" us something. Please trust me that the Bible can't tell anyone anything.

 

[savagewind]

I am hearing that to give life to a book is to make an image, [which in your opinion has the ability to act.]
To make an image is a commandment, "do not do".

1 And God spoke all these words: 2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 3 "You shall have no other gods before me. 4 "You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.
5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,
6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.

 

[anonymous9887]

1. Don't know. Don't really care.

2. Oh, look: a city in a contested area will be fought over like it always has been.

3. What happened after that? Was she okay?

4. What if I think the author is blaspheming?


Indeed. It's revenge porn that sacrifices substance for Michael Bay-ish special effects.


The insight is not to give too much credit to the revenge porn of someone bitter he ended up in jail.


And then proved his righteousness by getting wasted and blaming some grandkid because one of his son's saw him naked and wasted, which was his own fault.

Biblical heroes: trying to avoid personal responsibility since ... well ... forever...

Well since you don't believe in the Bible, what are you doing in the thread. Again the thread is to discuss the possible interpretations. Just like in school we were taught how to understand a story, same thing here, if you got nothing to contribute or even look at it from a historical view, I would say your here just to criticize and that's it.

 

[anonymous9887]

The Bible does not "tell". Really. The people who wrote it were TRYING to "tell" someone something perhaps. If God has anything to do with the writing of it, God is "telling" us something. Please trust me that the Bible can't tell anyone anything.

Again, how many times do I have to tell you, the thread is to figure out what was meant, if you want point out the mistakes in the Bible start your own thread.

 

[savagewind]

Again, how many times do I have to tell you, the thread is to figure out what was meant, if you want point out the mistakes in the Bible start your own thread.

To figure out once and for all what was meant by any scripture is not humanly possible. You must hear from The Lord about what it means. Do you disagree that a person must hear from The Lord for the truth?

 

[savagewind]

According to what is written that YOU @Paul Chavez put your faith in, The Lord IS the truth. John 14:6
If that is so, how is it possible to go AROUND The Lord to get at the truth? Hebrews 10:20

 

[savagewind]

Well since you don't believe in the Bible, what are you doing in the thread. Again the thread is to discuss the possible interpretations. Just like in school we were taught how to understand a story, same thing here, if you got nothing to contribute or even look at it from a historical view, I would say your here just to criticize and that's it.

Wowzers! It seems to me that you have become like the governing body members who teach but can't be taught.

The WHOLE Bible does not have to be all God's words for a person to learn God's way.

You "believe in the Bible" forgetting that Jehovah is "Jealous" . Exodus 34:14

I "believe in" the life that is from God in Christ. That is all I believe in. I don't believe in you, or in @Kelly of the Phoenix, though she is my friend here and I believe she loves God, or in any pastor, or preacher, or religion, or Pope, or governing body member or even myself, of course. 1 Corinthians 10:12

Tell me please. Islam has its own holy books. Is there anything right in those books, according to your understanding? Is everything about Islam wrong......or The Latter Day Saints.......or the Jehovah's Witnesses....Don't they all teach good things? Are the good things they teach not to be believed because their tenets aren't all perfect?

 

[anonymous9887]

To figure out once and for all what was meant by any scripture is not humanly possible. You must hear from The Lord about what it means. Do you disagree that a person must hear from The Lord for the truth?

OK let's just suppose you are correct in your faith. What wrong with getting to know the scriptures and what they meant, to be able to find common ground, and be able to speak with these people on their level. Because whether or not the book is inspired, there is meaning, whether gods or man's there is meaning.

 

[anonymous9887]

According to what is written that YOU @Paul Chavez put your faith in, The Lord IS the truth. John 14:6
If that is so, how is it possible to go AROUND The Lord to get at the truth? Hebrews 10:20

I study everything, and I have my reasons why I believe god inspired those words. But that's a discussion of another thread.

 

[anonymous9887]

Wowzers! It seems to me that you have become like the governing body members who teach but can't be taught.

The WHOLE Bible does not have to be all God's words for a person to learn God's way.

You "believe in the Bible" forgetting that Jehovah is "Jealous" . Exodus 34:14

I "believe in" the life that is from God in Christ. That is all I believe in. I don't believe in you, or in @Kelly of the Phoenix, though she is my friend here and I believe she loves God, or in any pastor, or preacher, or religion, or Pope, or governing body member or even myself, of course. 1 Corinthians 10:12

Tell me please. Islam has its own holy books. Is there anything right in those books, according to your understanding? Is everything about Islam wrong......or The Latter Day Saints.......or the Jehovah's Witnesses....Don't they all teach good things? Are the good things they teach not to be believed because their tenets aren't all perfect?

Well it's up for each person to examine those books and meticulously study and be able to find an inconsistent theme, trying to identify them. To be honest I love to study religion, but I also practice my faith. My goal in life is just to get people to really think and carefully examine things.