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Inerrancy of the Bible and other Religious Texts

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Ceridwen018, Aug 16, 2005.

  1. Jayhawker Soule

    Jayhawker Soule <yawn> ignore </yawn>
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    And
    • If A != B AND B == C there is no basis for asserting that A == C, and
    • If A == B AND B != C there is no basis for asserting that A == C, and
    • If A != B AND B != C there is no basis for asserting that A == C
    In fact, it is pretentious nonsense to maintain that the "Word of a Perfect God" must itself be perfect.
     
  2. Green Gaia

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    I would not presume to answer for you.
     
  3. michel

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    WHAT??? That formula is one of the first tenets of Logic! It proves for instance, if Uranium is radioactive, and this rock is Uranium, then this rock is radioactive!

    It is pretentious nonsense to maintain that the "Word of a Perfect God" must itself be perfect???

    Okay, Deut, I hope you have a great, illogical day, then!
     
  4. michel

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    Even though I've said it over and over? Don't you understand the concept behind Spokesmanship?
     
  5. Jayhawker Soule

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    Yes, as a matter of fact it is.
     
  6. joeboonda

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    I do not believe there is any ONE arguement to be made for inerrancy of the scripture. It is a culmination of many things put together from which we who believe in the inspiration and inerrancy of the scriptures derive our answer. I can only suggest reading some books by folks who hold this position, as I do not think it possible to answer that in a few short sentences.

    I will proclaim the goodnews of Christ, I will not try to argue anyone into believing it. My duty is to tell the goodnews, the Holy Spirit's duty is to convict one of their need for it. Once you hear it, you may accept or refect it, if you have problems with it, research it on your own, but I won't argue anyone into the kingdom of God, I don't know that that is possible, although there are some folks who are better qualified than myself that could probably do a great job of it.

    I will say, if someone even has the tiniest inclination or interest, that it may be true, then, as Jesus said, seek and ye shall find, knock and it shall be opened unto you. If one truly wants to find out if it is true, that person must put forth some effort of his own; draw nigh to God and he will draw nigh unto you. Nobody can do it for you, it is a personal endeavor, but it has great rewards for those who would seek out of a pure heart. PEACE!
     
  7. Green Gaia

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    Hmmm.... I guess not and I fail to see how answering silly questions that you claim to already know the answers to is answering my question of "Other than, "it says so," why do you think the Bible is the, "Word of God"?" and to that I would like to add "Other than, "it says so," what proof is there that it is inerrant?"
     
  8. Fascist Christ

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    Scripture is always in error. A perfect god would not choose to relay his message in something as fallible and corruptible as human language. Behold, the true Word of God is right before your eyes: It is the Creation, and it is never wrong. All your answers can be found there.
     
  9. Pah

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    In fact there is only one - I have faith in the inerrancy of the Bible. There is no come back to that.
     
  10. Jayhawker Soule

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    OK. Why did they make Nebraska?
     
  11. Melody

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    After driving through it, I can only presume He ran out of ideas.
     
  12. Fascist Christ

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    Because people are social animals. We see this in other creatures, too. Many animals like to be in groups, and often form invisible borders to define their territory.

    As for why the name and why the specific borders and other specific details such as that, it is all due to a complex system of cause and effect, greatly influenced by the subjectivity of human will.
     
  13. Jayhawker Soule

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    Ah, "a complex system of cause and effect"! Leave it to Deism to prove Deity a superfluous hypothesis. :D
     
  14. Feathers in Hair

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    Perhaps we might differentiate the practical application of this form of logic from its other applications. (For instance, ''Feathers is a pagan, Feathers wears feathers in her hair, therefore all pagans wear feathers in their hair'' is an example of the latter.)

    Maybe it's just because I don't understand the idea of wanting to base your outtake on your life on a book that is not a 'living' (meaning that it can be rewritten as need be) document. As was noted in "Good Omens" (which I seem to be quoting even more than usual lately), "I don't see why it matters what is written. Not when it's about people. It can always be crossed out."
     
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    He had to put Lincoln somewhere!
     
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    But there's coming a time, Feathers, when God is going to cross the person out - (Revelation 3:5).

    And we Christians don't want to see that happen to ANYONE!
     
  17. Scuba Pete

    Scuba Pete Le plongeur avec attitude...

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    Nebraska? It wasn't Slartibartfast's area to work on otherwise it would have been interesting. Notice the absence of fjords.
     
  18. Feathers in Hair

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    I should clarify that Jesus, Sophia, and the Judeo-Christian God are among my pantheon when I say this, and I will not be trying to hijak this thread by discussing theology when the topic is religious texts, but I suppose that falls under the category of 'Why on earth would you want a God who would do that?"

    I do understand that, from your perception, you are wanting to save us from being crossed out. However, deciding that your religious text says what will happen to me is entirely as valid as me and all other pagans getting together and writing something that would say "You will spend the rest of eternity eating banana pudding' and believing this will happen to you. It would be the revealed Word of the Goddess, after all.
     
  19. michel

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    No, Feathers, not even close. If you want to equate that with writing CHRISTIAN SCRIPUTRE, you would need 40 Pagans, over a period of 1500 years, speaking three different languages, on three different continents, with a variety of lifestyles and backgrounds, writing 66 Books that compliment each other perfectly. A bunch of bananas doesn't cut it, and no writings on the face of this Earth can compare to the complexity of the Christian Scriptures.
     
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    Ain't no Chevys, either.
     
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