Impeachment hearings: Was it worth it?

[leov]

We do not live in 1775 anymore. The new agreement from 1994 is what count now

People of Ukraine faced Nazi type deadly putsch which was paid by neocons. People of Ukraine lost it and one corrupt system was replaced with another more brutal Nazi type.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Did you see any people's resistance of that invasion? New Ukrainian government was Cannibalic, and people did not want any part of it. Maidan brought a lot of misery and death to Ukraine, this is historic fact.

The 2014 riot was to overthrow Viktor Yanukovych who was a bad leader for Ukraine. Today they have a different president and with help from America, they maybe can become less corrupt than previous times. Ukraine is in blossom to become a better place for the Ukraine people. They do not need Russia and Putin to be free people. Ukraine is a more free country without Putin

 

[Spirit of Light]

People of Ukraine faced Nazi type deadly putsch which was paid by neocons. People of Ukraine lost it and one corrupt system was replaced with another more brutal Nazi type.

You still linger in the past. look at what is taking place NOW. it is now Ukraine has the possibility to be a very free and good country without Russian interference

 

[leov]

The 2014 riot was to overthrow Viktor Yanukovych who was a bad leader for Ukraine. Today they have a different president and with help from America, they maybe can become less corrupt than previous times. Ukraine is in blossom to become a better place for the Ukraine people. They do not need Russia and Putin to be free people. Ukraine is a more free country without Putin

Yanukovych was corrupt but knew some limits , the system that replaced him supported by bidens was brutal and murderous , put people in dire need.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Yanukovych was corrupt but knew some limits , the system that replaced him supported by bidens was brutal and murderous , put people in dire need.

Bidens son are on a board in a Ukraine company, He is not a part of any governmental issues.
Where did you get the idea that Biden has anything to do with Government in Ukraine?

 

[leov]

You still linger in the past. look at what is taking place NOW. it is now Ukraine has the possibility to be a very free and good country without Russian interference

three years ago, just before she died my mother hired a helper, old woman former medical doctor with PhD just ran out from Ukraine, she told me a few stories as of 2016...

 

[leov]

The 2014 riot was to overthrow Viktor Yanukovych who was a bad leader for Ukraine. Today they have a different president and with help from America, they maybe can become less corrupt than previous times. Ukraine is in blossom to become a better place for the Ukraine people. They do not need Russia and Putin to be free people. Ukraine is a more free country without Putin

Ukrainian MP Claims $7.4 Billion Obama-Linked Laundering, Puts Biden Group Take At $16.5 Million
To Ukrainian official talking about this matter.
Joe Biden’s son and his partners received $16.5 million from Burisma — Ukrainian MP

 

[Earthtank]

For those of you who are opposed to the Trump administration, was/is it worth it?

No, because the outcome from each party was already well established before the hearings began. No new evidence will change anyone's vote out of fear for the greed and power they currently have.

 

[Spirit of Light]

three years ago, just before she died my mother hired a helper, old woman former medical doctor with PhD just ran out from Ukraine, she told me a few stories as of 2016...

Sorry to hear about your mother passing away.
I do not say Ukraine is perfect, No country in the world is perfect, But Russia does need to let Ukraine be left alone as a free sovereign country. That Ukraine seeks help from America instead of Russia may have to do with Russia and Ukraine history.

 

[leov]

Sorry to hear about your mother passing away.
I do not say Ukraine is perfect, No country in the world is perfect, But Russia does need to let Ukraine be left alone as a free sovereign country. That Ukraine seeks help from America instead of Russia may have to do with Russia and Ukraine history.

Listen, I lived in Western Ukraine for 26 years, I know some things.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Listen, I lived in Western Ukraine for 26 years, I know some things.

So why not support a better future for Ukraine?

 

[leov]

Sorry to hear about your mother passing away.
I do not say Ukraine is perfect, No country in the world is perfect, But Russia does need to let Ukraine be left alone as a free sovereign country. That Ukraine seeks help from America instead of Russia may have to do with Russia and Ukraine history.

"During the months of the Maidan, which was presented to the whole world as the liberation movement of the Ukrainian people, dozens of people were burned alive. Hundreds, maybe thousands, were beaten to death. Thousands are slaughtered, shot, and tortured. Vandalism and looting flourished. Under the Ukrainian flag, fascists came to power in Ukraine. Hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of Ukrainians, were infected by the fascist plague." From Russian article, basically truth, used Google translator
https://pikabu.ru/story/fashizm_na_ukraine_2391157
You can finish if you want.

 

[leov]

So why not support a better future for Ukraine?

I do but I do not see where it comes from? Definitely not from the Biden's side. I still have a few friends there, I want them all the best.

 

[Spirit of Light]

"During the months of the Maidan, which was presented to the whole world as the liberation movement of the Ukrainian people, dozens of people were burned alive. Hundreds, maybe thousands, were beaten to death. Thousands are slaughtered, shot, and tortured. Vandalism and looting flourished. Under the Ukrainian flag, fascists came to power in Ukraine. Hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of Ukrainians, were infected by the fascist plague." From Russian article, basically truth, used Google translator
https://pikabu.ru/story/fashizm_na_ukraine_2391157
You can finish if you want.

I do not say that wrong did not happened during the 2014 riot. There was a lot of bad going on there, Unfortunately, a part of becoming free there will be times of harm from those who do not want someone to be free. And yes a lot of bad happened, and probably many bad things still happen in Ukraine. this is not what I want to discuss. I want Russia to stay out of Ukraine.
I am not a huge fan of Amerika either, But for Ukraine this time America is better than Russia.

 

[Shad]

Ukraine used to be part of the USSR so was originally Russian territory.

In fact, Ukraine was one of the founding members of the USSR.

Putin has done exactly what we would have done had one of the US states suddenly ceded from the Union and declared itself independent. Go after it to bring it back into the territory.

Sorry but Ukraine was one of the 3 parties that pushed for the dissolution of the USSR in writing. Belarus and Russia were the other two. Putin can not suddenly claim Ukraine is part of Russia when Russia in writing acknowledge Ukraine was not part of Russia via the dissolution. More so Russia opened the door for any former member of the USSR to join the Russian Federation. That acknowledges that former USSR members were never part of Russia.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Sorry but Ukraine was one of the 3 parties that pushed for the dissolution of the USSR in writing. Belarus and Russia were the other two. Putin can not suddenly claim Ukraine is part of Russia when Russia in writing acknowledge Ukraine was not part of Russia via the dissolution. More so Russia opened the door for any former member of the USSR to join the Russian Federation. That acknowledges that former USSR members were never part of Russia.

Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic - Wikipedia

 

[Shad]

Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic - Wikipedia

You proved my point. It was not part Russia but its own republic. Russia itself is not the USSR and never was.

Now go look up the dissolution of the USSR.

 

[Twilight Hue]

You proved my point.

Now go look up the dissolution of the USSR.

It's a lot more complex than that.

After 5 years of conflict, Ukraine’s barrier to peace is still ‘Russia’s political will’

 

[Shad]

It's a lot more complex than that.

No it isn't. Russia is not the USSR and never was. It was the most powerful republic in the USSR.

After 5 years of conflict, Ukraine’s barrier to peace is still ‘Russia’s political will’

This is irrelevant to the points I made. Yes there are territory disputes but not a dispute about sovereignty itself until Putin made his absurd claim

 

[Twilight Hue]

No it isn't. Russia is not the USSR and never was. It was the most powerful republic in the USSR.


This is irrelevant to the points I made. Yes there are territory disputes but not a dispute about sovereignty itself until Putin made his absurd claim

Of course it was. Same as the states are technically independent , but still part of the Federation.

You don't think Putin wants a reunification of the old USSR?