"If Knoxville Kids Skip Class for Bible Study, Satanists Want in on the Action"

[Cooky]

Are you just making things up as you go because you want to defend 'your team' or something?

You don't own your kid, and you don't get to do whatever you like with them
If you doubt me, go employ your 10 years old to make some cash, beat them, sell them or simply neglect their education.

What this has to do with 'Communism' I have no idea, but don't let facts get in the way of a 'good' throwaway line, I guess.

Are we ranting now? Yes, that's a Communist trait, to dictate what programs are offered to children not your own. It's none of your business. Period.

 

[Cooky]

Do you realise how ignorant you sound?

Not as ignorant as you do?

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Are we ranting now? Yes, that's a Communist trait, to dictate what programs are offered to children not your own. It's none of your business. Period.

You saying it and adding 'period' at the end means exactly nothing.
I'm a qualified educator, and a parent, as well as a tax payer. As a society, first world nations have decided that;
1) children should be educated
2) one religion shouldn't be preferenced over another in secular education

Ignore that as you will, but step off with the 'none of your business' insular rubbish.

And no, I'm not a communist. I'm not even left, by any normal standards. But the trouble with using a broad brush is that you'll never be able to colour between the lines, I guess.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Not as ignorant as you?

Really? Do tell. What is it I'm ignorant about? Because you're conflating atheism with communism. Which is ridiculously ignorant.

And me? What is it you believe me to be ignorant about? There's plenty to choose from, I'll grant, since there are lots of gaps in my knowledge.

You being capable of identifying them seems less certain.
You're basically playing a game of 'I know you are, but what am I?'

 

[Cooky]

Really? Do tell. What is it I'm ignorant about? Because you're conflating atheism with communism. Which is ridiculously ignorant.

And me? What is it you believe me to be ignorant about? There's plenty to choose from, I'll grant, since there are lots of gaps in my knowledge.

You being capable of identifying them seems less certain.
You're basically playing a game of 'I know you are, but what am I?'

No, you just sound really, really ignorant because you don't get that Atheism and Communism are historically related.

...And here you are, making a fuss about kids who are given the chance to leave one hour early, once a month for a special class outside of campus.

...One of my daughters qualified for a pre-nursing class off campus one year in high school. Only certain kids were selected for that, where she went and worked as a NA in training at a nursing home.

Do you have a problem with that too?

 

[Father Heathen]

You saying it and adding 'period' at the end means exactly nothing.
I'm a qualified educator, and a parent, as well as a tax payer. As a society, first world nations have decided that;
1) children should be educated
2) one religion shouldn't be preferenced over another in secular education

Ignore that as you will, but step off with the 'none of your business' insular rubbish.

And no, I'm not a communist. I'm not even left, by any normal standards. But the trouble with using a broad brush is that you'll never be able to colour between the lines, I guess.

As you know, in the U.S. "communist/socialist" are simply yokel slurs used to refer to anything they don't like or understand.

 

[Cooky]

As you know, in the U.S. "communist/socialist" are simply yokel slurs used to refer to anything they don't like or understand.

My child, my child... Please educate yourself on the historical relationship between atheism and communism before tossing around generalizations.

...And now we see militant Atheists attempting to tear down religious after school programs for other people's kids. Sounds like typical Communist behavior to me.

 

[Subduction Zone]

My child, my child... Please educate yourself on the historical relationship between atheism and communism before tossing around generalizations.

...And now we see militant Atheists attempting to tear down religious after school programs for other people's kids. Sounds like typical Communist behavior to me.

And are you going to educate yourself on the relationship between Catholicism and fascism? After all you keep claiming that the school has the right to act in a fascist manner.

Or perhaps we could try to debate without incendiary terms.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

No, you just sound really, really ignorant because you don't get that Atheism and Communism are historically related.

I'm pretty sure I know a lot more about both subjects than you. But...as I mentioned in one of my other posts...you seem determined to paint with the broadest possible brush.

With that in mind, thinking you have any understanding of my POLITICS based on my RELIGIOUS VIEWS is probably not too much of a stretch.

If you need the simple analogy, it's this. Cats are mammals. Not all mammals are cats.
You're calling out 'meow' to all mammals. Makes you look ignorant.

...And here you are, making a fuss about kids who are given the chance to leave one hour early, once a month for a special class outside of campus.

And here you are making a fuss about kids having to stay in school one hour per month to do stuff they're entirely able to do outside of school.

Perhaps you're ignorant of why this class has been arranged during school time. It's possible, I guess.

...One of my daughters qualified for a pre-nursing class off campus one year in high school. Only certain kids were selected for that, where she went and worked as a NA in training at a nursing home.

Do you have a problem with that too?

I'd need to know more details, but on the face of it, no, I can't see why I would. Did they give your daughter candy to try and encourage other girls to choose nursing over language arts? Was she 7 years old? Was there no requirement to have someone qualified running the program? Was there a rationale in terms of why the program was held during school time?

I'd be guessing on all these points, but I'd give it the benefit of the doubt, further information notwithstanding.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

As you know, in the U.S. "communist/socialist" are simply yokel slurs used to refer to anything they don't like or understand.

I know. It is akin to someone calling me a duck, though. Whilst laughably inaccurate, it's still likely to startle me.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Pretty fair chance the Satanic Children's Ministry is non-theistic. I mean, it's basically made up, near as I can tell, as a way of proving a point.

Made up, as opposed to other religions? lol It is, but it has also been recognized as a religion. There are non-theistic religions.

 

[Stevicus]

As I see it, we the people are paying the school for that hour. Plus "The kids will also get credit for attending school even though they’re at Bible study." Which brings up the question, WHY?
.

Well, that's a good point, although they could simply make that hour a teachers' planning period. It's not uncommon to have teacher planning days or early dismissal for any number of reasons, so I don't see it as a huge deal.

However, I agree that they shouldn't get school credit for a Bible study.

 

[BilliardsBall]

Honestly, I think the atheist kids would get a lot of value out of it. Whether or not you believe the theology the Bible is a literary classic. Bible illiteracy is really a big gap in your education. And very common.
Tom

Not in my education! I see the Bible errors made by many here, fast!

 

[BilliardsBall]

Why would purpose and meaning require ghosts and goblins? That's just silly.

Says the man whose avatar is practically a goblin!

 

[columbus]

Would everyone have the same opinions if a Ford dealership offered to teach a batch of kids about the functioning, maintenance, and repairs of cars? Or the Democratic Party offered a seminar on civics?
I doubt it.
Tom

 

[stvdv]

What do you think the outcome will be

Creative way of evangelism I must say

I don't believe in evangelism being Dharmic, so even if it happens now it will be cancelled later. Especially in the age we live now.

 

[HonestJoe]

Would everyone have the same opinions if a Ford dealership offered to teach a batch of kids about the functioning, maintenance, and repairs of cars? Or the Democratic Party offered a seminar on civics?

No, because the special legal exception that is being used to allow this is specifically limited to “religious moral instruction”. Under the law as written, the Ford dealership or Democratic Party could offer religious instruction but the church couldn’t offer a car repair or civics instruction.

Can Knox County kids skip school for Bible study? It's happening at Sterchi Elementary

 

[Cooky]

Would everyone have the same opinions if a Ford dealership offered to teach a batch of kids about the functioning, maintenance, and repairs of cars? Or the Democratic Party offered a seminar on civics?
I doubt it.
Tom

And the reason they don't is HATRED. Because we're not dealing with mere Atheists.. Oh no..! We're dealing with Militant anti-theists, with a particularly fond taste for anti-Christianity.

 

[columbus]

And the reason they don't is HATRED. Because we're not dealing with mere Atheists.. Oh no..! We're dealing with Militant anti-theists, with a particularly fond taste for anti-Christianity.

You completely missed my point.
I don't need to know much about The Church at Sterchi Hill to know that their interpretation of the Bible is unlikely to be much like mine or most other people's.
That's a huge problem with private organizations teaching things as subjective as religion or politics. I'd bet that if you and your Catholic Papist beliefs tried to teach a class about "Jesus's Own Church" you wouldn't get far.
Tom

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

My child, my child... Please educate yourself on the historical relationship between atheism and communism before tossing around generalizations.

Thought you might like to recall that there were atheists long, long before communism was even a notion in Karl Marx's brain. And not a single atheist that I know personally is a communist.