"If Knoxville Kids Skip Class for Bible Study, Satanists Want in on the Action"

[Cooky]

Thought you might like to recall that there were atheists long, long before communism was even a notion in Karl Marx's brain. And not a single atheist that I know personally is a communist.

Okay, but Communism was invented by the atheist mind. And when Atheist minds start wandering in that direction, triggering the same neurons that triggered in the Communists, I'm not hesitating to speak up.

...You can't tell kids what after school programs they take part in. It's their business.

Say NO to:
League of Militant Atheists

League of Militant Atheists - Wikipedia

 

[columbus]

Not in my education! I see the Bible errors made by many here, fast!

I would love to see more religious and Bible education in the public schools.

The problem is Christians who insist that their beliefs be taught as the true ones. Not just "Christian" beliefs, but those of their denomination.
When the local school system tried to add a world religion class, the Catholics were some of the strongest opposition. They objected to having Church history taught objectively.
Tom

 

[columbus]

Okay, but Communism was invented by the atheist mind.

But then Communism quickly became the state religion in countries culturally accustomed to tyrannical rulers. And the Communist elite did the same thing religious rulers have always done. Support their own interests by killing the heretics.
Tom

 

[Cooky]

But then Communism quickly became the state religion in countries culturally accustomed to tyrannical rulers. And the Communist elite did the same thing religious rulers have always done. Support their own interests by killing the heretics.
Tom

Sad how humanity repeats itself over and over. Now we see the rise of Militant atheism rearing it's ugly head, once again.

 

[columbus]

Sad how humanity repeats itself over and over.

Too true.
From Moses to Constantine to Muhammad to Stalin and Mao, warlords weaponized religion and turned them into tools.

Now we see the rise of Militant atheism rearing it's ugly head, once again.

Once again? I'm not sure what you mean. Militant atheists have never been particularly powerful.
Tom

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Okay, but Communism was invented by the atheist mind. And when Atheist minds start wandering in that direction, triggering the same neurons that triggered in the Communists, I'm not hesitating to speak up.

...You can't tell kids what after school programs they take part in. It's their business.

Say NO to:
League of Militant Atheists
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League of Militant Atheists - Wikipedia

I'm not going to fall prey to your "guilt by association" ploy. I've been very clear that, though I'm indeed an atheist, I am not, nor have I ever been, a communist. I am a classic liberal, embrace capitalism, the liberty of the individual with only such moderate constraints as may foster a more general good (including things like taxation to pay for necessary social services, etc.).

I have never been a "militant atheist," and I have no desire to impinge on anyone's right to believe as they choose. I will, when engaged in a forum such as this one, or when I'm asked, give my views on beliefs that seem curious or at odds with reality.

And I would certainly never dream of telling any kid, or their parents, what programs they ought to be in after school.

But please note: the OP was quite clear that in this instance, we are NOT talking about after school. We are talking about SOME kids being granted time away from school DURING school hours for a program. And that same time-away is not granted to kids of other faiths who could not, therefore, share in that program. This is special treatment based on religion during public school hours.

 

[HonestJoe]

Sad how humanity repeats itself over and over. Now we see the rise of Militant atheism rearing it's ugly head, once again.

What "militant atheism"? This thread is about an entirely verbal and lighthearted protest against a theocratic law granting special rights to the religious (in practice to mainstream Christians). If anything it's "pacifist secularism".

 

[Cooky]

But please note: the OP was quite clear that in this instance, we are NOT talking about after school. We are talking about SOME kids being granted time away from school DURING school hours for a program. And that same time-away is not granted to kids of other faiths who could not, therefore, share in that program. This is special treatment based on religion during public school hours.

How long do you suppose it takes the kids to be transported to another off site location, and get regrouped to start their class?

All this leaving an hour early one day a month, seems to be to buy the kids time... But nobody wants to give them that time, because "religion".

 

[Cooky]

What "militant atheism"? This thread is about an entirely verbal and lighthearted protest against a theocratic law granting special rights to the religious (in practice to mainstream Christians). If anything it's "pacifist secularism".

The League of Militant Atheists were also entirely verbal.

League of Militant Atheists - Wikipedia

 

[ADigitalArtist]

The League of Militant Atheists were also entirely verbal.

League of Militant Atheists - Wikipedia

No it wasn't. Under authority and anti-religious methodology it talks on that wiki article about forced conversions and consequences of finding people who would not be converted.

Rather like Catholic totalitarian regimes.

Thankfully it's super easy to be both atheist, socialist, and anti-totalitarian.

 

[Cooky]

No it wasn't. Under authority and anti-religious methodology it talks on that wiki article about forced conversions and consequences of finding people who would not be converted.

Rather like Catholic totalitarian regimes.

Thankfully it's super easy to be both atheist, socialist, and anti-totalitarian.

I didn't see that in the article.

I think you're confusing "forced conversions" with what the article describes as the: "individual work" (a method of sending atheist tutors to meet with individual believers to convince them that gods do not exist).

...But that's essentially not much different than what we see in our typical Western public educators today, basically propagating socialism and atheism to their students under the guise of Progressivism.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

I didn't see that in the article.

I think you're confusing "forced conversions" with what the article describes as the: "individual work" (a method of sending atheist tutors to meet with individual believers to convince them that gods do not exist).

...But that's essentially not much different than what we see in our typical Western public educators today, basically propagating socialism and atheism to their students under the guise of Progressivism.

It's right there in the section I mentioned

More like what right wing fearmongers call socialism, atheism and progressivism. Not that they'd know. Not having experienced it themselves. Or a dictionary, really.

 

[Cooky]

It's right there in the section I mentioned

More like what right wing fearmongers call socialism, atheism and progressivism. Not that they'd know. Not having experienced it themselves. Or a dictionary, really.

If it's right there, then maybe you can quote it. I read it four times, and still don't see it.

...It seems like you're making stuff up.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

If it's right there, then maybe you can quote it. I read it four times, and still don't see it.

...It seems like you're making stuff up.

It seems like you need to brush up on your reading then.

Under the doctrine of state atheism in the Soviet Union, there was a "government-sponsored program of forced conversion to atheism" conducted by the Communists, with the LMG at the forefront of this campaign.[28][29][30] Many priests were killed and imprisoned. Thousands of churches were closed, some turned into hospitals

The League of Militant Atheists aided the Soviet government in killing clergy and committed believers.[54] The League also made it a priority to remove religious icons from the homes of believers.[55] Under the slogan, "the Storming of Heaven," the League of Militant Atheists pressed for "resolute action against religious peasants" leading to the mass arrest and exile of many believers, especially village priests. By 1940, "over 100 bishops, tens of thousands of Orthodox clergy, and thousands of monks and lay believers had been killed or had died in Soviet prisons and the Gulag."[56]

 

[Cooky]

No it wasn't. Under authority and anti-religious methodology it talks on that wiki article about forced conversions and consequences of finding people who would not be converted.

Rather like Catholic totalitarian regimes.

Thankfully it's super easy to be both atheist, socialist, and anti-totalitarian.

I just hope Atheists here, as well as in the "Church of Satan" are not attempting totalitarian traits. It's my objective to search that out, and destroy it on sight. Verbally. Should it occur.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

I just hope Atheists here, as well as in the "Church of Satan" are not attempting totalitarian traits. It's my objective to search that out, and destroy it on sight. Verbally. Should it occur.

I don't want that any more than I want a Vatican empire.

 

[Cooky]

I don't want that any more than I want a Vatican empire.

Me too.

 

[columbus]

I just hope Atheists here, as well as in the "Church of Satan" are not attempting totalitarian traits.

Having a lot of experience with Christian culture, Catholic in particular, Atheists have a long way to go to catch up with the totalitarian traits of Abrahamic religionists.
From the Crusades to the Genocide of the Americas to the KKK to the Holocaust to Westboro Baptist Church, Christians have been using murder to enforce their totalitarianism for many centuries.
And you know it.
Tom

 

[Cooky]

Having a lot of experience with Christian culture, Catholic in particular, Atheists have a long way to go to catch up with the totalitarian traits of Abrahamic religionists.
From the Crusades to the Genocide of the Americas to the KKK to the Holocaust to Westboro Baptist Church, Christians have been using murder to enforce their totalitarianism for many centuries.
And you know it.
Tom

I won't accept the majority of your arguments, specifically the Genocide of the Americas, or the Holocaust or the majority of the defensive Crusades, such as the battle of Lepanto, because they were either defensive wars or were, based on cultural, societal or racial expansion. Not religion per se.

...But the murders by Atheists of religious people, in particular, in the Soviet Union, China and North Korea are absolutely tyrannical totalitarianism in it's most purest form.

The only group to have come close to the scale of Atheist totalitarianism, in recent times, are the Muslim terrorist groups like ISIS.

 

[columbus]

I won't accept the majority of your arguments, specifically the Genocide of the Americas, or the Holocaust or the majority of the defensive Crusades, such as the battle of Lepanto, because they were either defensive wars or were, based on cultural, societal or racial expansion. Not religion

Seriously?
You think that Cortez was launching a defensive war?
Really, it's hard to converse with you.
Tom