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How to Overthrow the US Government. By Marxist.org. 1980
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Funny.
It must be my imagination when I lived in Niagara Falls with all those Ontario plates parked at the hospital.
Silly me.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
You asserted the claims, so the burden of proof is on you. Otherwise, if it sounds like dopey conservative claptrap, it'll be dismissed as such.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Also, when it comes to Canada, I think I'll trust the actual canadians.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Your lazy too. Aren't cha?
There's plenty of sources already provided in threads in this forum on those topics. Look it up as if you didn't already know they existed.
Of course your the type that wants people to repeat things again and again over and over. I don't fall for that BS tactic which you employ ad nauseum.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
It's "you're", which is a contraction of "you are". "Your" is possessive, as in it's your job to make your arguments persuasive and convincing.
Want to know how to strengthen the US? Change ONE thing -- make it mandatory that when a Democrat speaks, the first words out of her mouth are "what the Democrates hope for," and when a Republican speaks, their opening salvo is "Republicans are hopeful that."
As it is now -- listen to every public forum you can find -- Democrats begin "Republicans are...." and Republicans begin "Democrats are trying to..."
Where can you go with that? If you're having a fight with your spouse, do you think it will get better by accusing them of everything you can think of, while they do the same to you? Or do you have a better chance if you say, "so, what I hear you saying is that I'm making you feel like," and would you prefer it if partner said, "I don't want to hurt you, but I feel like..."?
We all have two ears, and one mouth, and if we use them in proportion, we have a better chance of resolving our differences. Imagine what it would do if one party could only say, "okay, I hear you, and I see the benefits of what you're suggesting, but I'm concerned about..."
Augustus
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Actual socialists in the 70s/early80s were Leninists, Stalinists, Maoists, Trotskyists, etc.
Now they seem to be proponents of regulated Capitalism with governmental control of certain utilities (although I try pay as little attention to US politics as I can mange.
Who are the most "socialist" elected politicians?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I don't know what the topmost popular Canadian in all of its history now is, but I do know that about 10 or so years ago it was the Saskatchewan doctor that devised the current medical system they have.
Maybe some here should go to Canada and ask them if they're willing to trade theirs in for ours.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I think it's due to the doctrine of original sin but that's just my opinion. Others may disagree. I wanted to add that mankind also screws up any religious institution as well. I mean that literally and figuratively - LOL. Actually mankind screws up any institution he gets involved with - politics, business, you name it.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I made a thread a few months ago that asked non-American RFers if they wish they had our healthcare system: Non-Americans, would you prefer U.S. style Healthcare?
The consensus of course was a resounding "no", but the right would rather wallow in denial, to everyone's detriment.
They're all in on acheiving a pyrrhic victory.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Thanks for this.
BTW, since even so many on the "religious right" oppose universal healthcare for all, this seems the polar opposite of what we should expect of a supposed "Christian country" and a supposed Christian entity. Why does money take priority over helping all that are in need? How is this position in any way compatible with Jesus' Sermon On the Mount?
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
No, Canadians do not flee en masse for US health care
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...veling-to-the-united-states-for-medical-care/
As noted in the article, American healthcare is super expensive. In Canada (actually, provincially) we have a public healthcare system, as well as a private system that citizens can buy into. So we're covered, both ways. We don't really need to come there. Unless we're seeking out a particular doctor that operates out of a particular state or something, we don't need to.
Perhaps you lived in Niagara Falls many decades ago, or something?
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
Or perhaps all the Ontario plates that he saw were people from Canada who were visiting Niagara Falls, or - gasp! - worked there.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Great point. From the people who are always harping on about how the US is a "Christian Nation."
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
LOL Good point!
I'm there a lot and I don't even work there. Or seek medical attention across the border when I can get it down the street from my house.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I said nothing of overall violence (which would include internal violence, such as political purges and the Gulag). This is specifically about foreign policy and military aggression. On the whole, countries officially presenting as socialist or communist haven't been more militarily aggressive than the likes of the US, the UK, and France.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
How conservative Christians manage to reconcile their political ideology with the teachings and examples of Christ, despite the two being completely antithetical, is indeed a perplexing mystery.