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How earth's natural resources must be divided?

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by InvestigateTruth, Nov 17, 2019.

  1. InvestigateTruth

    InvestigateTruth Well-Known Member

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    What is the fairest way to divide earths natural resources such as metal mines, oil and gas, wood, etc? Remember, no body has worked to earn these natural resources!

    If you happen to be born and live in a country with little natural resources, and someone else luckily is born in a rich country, Does it mean the earth's resources you would get is from your place of birth, or all people would be entitled to all earth's resources?
     
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    As the planet warms I suspect that water will become the most precious resource in the years to come.
     
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    Well, under the current system, resources seem to go to whoever can afford them - or has the military might to be able to take them and defend them when needed. But then, military might also requires a great expenditure of resources, so it's one of those "it takes money to make money" kinds of things.

    Being born in a rich country doesn't necessarily guarantee anything. The US is a rich country, yet there are tens of millions of Americans languishing at poverty or near-poverty levels. If there's any "luck" involved in it, it's a matter of being born into the right family, not necessarily the right country.

    Distributing the world's resources would be a far less daunting task if not for such a huge population. That's where it gets problematic. When the question is who is entitled to the earth's resources, one has to consider that there's to go around when there's more mouths to feed.
     
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    just like 'peak oil', there more of primary water than conventional.
     
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    A company who takes the job to remove mine riches would be paid for the work it does. After the company removes the gold, and gets its money for the work it has done, then who would own the gold?

    Family is important, but, a family who lives in a poor country, would not have enough money for proper education of their children, and even there may not be good schools in a poor country.
     
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    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    spread the wealth?
    all are welcome

    I have heard a report.....an estimation
    this planet can support 9billion people
    that's it

    so....I might live long enough to see that happen

    in those days I will need two things most of all
    fresh water for myself and loved ones
    and enough lead to hold on to it
     
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    That's a good question. I guess the gold would be owned by whoever buys it. We've had a lot of copper mining in my state, although any gold they mine becomes part of the company's resources. There was a pretty nasty miners' strike back in the 1980s. The companies owned the mines (and in some cases, even the entire towns where the mines are located), but things hit a downturn when the price of copper decreased. The companies started tightening up.

    I knew this one family where their father had worked in the mines for many years, was getting close to retirement, and they fired him, but told him he could reapply as a new employee, while losing all his years of seniority and retirement benefits. The companies did pretty crappy things to their workers, who were the ones doing the actual work of mining and extracting the copper from the ground.

    So, who gets the resources? The workers who actually do the work, or the mine owners who do no work, yet simply hold a piece of paper that says "we own the mines"? That's where it gets a bit dicey in some people's interpretations of "freedom" and "fairness."

    Even poor countries still have a few rich families. It might still be better to be born into a rich family in a developing country than to be born into a poor family in a first world (aka "rich") country.

    I agree it's still worse to be poor in a poor country than it is to be poor in a rich country, but the way that you put it, it was like you were saying that some people are just "lucky" to be born into a rich country. I don't know if that really tells the whole story about how the world got to the point that we're at now - at least in terms of resources, rich countries, poor countries, and how such a disparity came about in the first place.
     
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    Well, all you have to do is just dig a very deep hole.
     
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    Wrong. Look up what a miner is.

    Neither. Resources can be traded. It is why KSA has beef yet does not produce beef to any level domestically. It imports beef.
     
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    free solar energy, plenty of desert sunlight. much water is near surface, we will have to drill as much as our technology allows or die.
     
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    Not in the UK, there is plenty of water
     
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    I don't think it will take that long.

    The poor people of the world want their share of the fossil fuels and other resources. And the people who feel entitled to them will go to war to protect their privilege.
    And the many and various weapons available, from suicide vests to nukes to cyber to democracy, will prevent the privileged from maintaining their privilege.

    The modern world is very different from the good old days.
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    I think they should be shared for the good of all. At the same time the world has become overpopulated, good farming land is being used to provide housing, Forrest cut down to expand the wealth of the greedy etc.

    I see that nature has a built in balance and we as the human race, in our current state of mind, are just about to tip that balance. I do not see big cities can survive and a decentralised way of life will prevail again in smaller villages and towns, with cities not being so big.

    One can rightly observe all the ruins of nations past, that built centres of wealth for a few, all on the backs of peasants and slaves.

    Regards Tony
     
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    your water problem solved already, now UK , US and others should cut military spending and build drilling machines....
     
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    Life isn't fair, the world isn't fair. This has always been the case.

    Someone by processing, mining, whatever have earned the benefit of that resource.

    So then does the technology to best utilize these resources become the property of all people ? If so, then how would the nation or individual be compensated for what may be years of effort to develop said technology ?

    We humans are distributed throughout the world, where we are does, and should determine the natural resources available to us.

    Trade ensures distribution throughout the world.
     
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    Nobody mentioned land?
     
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    Your post reminded me of this scene from Love and Death:

     
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