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How does Jesus free Christians from the Mosaic Law. The vast majority of Christians are Gentiles. Gentiles were never under the Law. How does Jesus free people from something they were never bound to in the first place?
Jesus told people around Him that they didn't even know the Father, much less 'worship' the father, obviously. Jesus also heavily criticized the very priesthood you seem to be elevating to status of what the Xians would be grafted onto. This makes no sense.before Christ arrived, the only way for people of the nations (gentiles) to approach Jehovah God was by becoming a member of the Israelite nation, by submitting to the practices and religious laws as taught by the Levitical priesthood. Besides the nation of Israel, Jehovah God did not view people of nations as his own people. He would only accept Israelites and those who submitted to the law of moses as his worshipers.
After Christ arrived, all mankind were free to approach Jehovah God through Christ. They no longer needed to get circumsized and live according to the law of Moses or become a proselyte of Israel. They could now worship Jehovah, and be accepted by him on the basis of Christs ransom sacrifice.
Jesus told people around Him that they didn't even know the Father, much less 'worship' the father, obviously. Jesus also heavily criticized the very priesthood you seem to be elevating to status of what the Xians would be grafted onto. This makes no sense.
That priesthood is?regardless, from the time that the Israelites were freed from Egypt and made into a holy nation, they were Gods chosen people, no one else.
If you wanted to worship Jehovah, you would have to join that nation and submit to the priesthood. That priesthood administered all of the instructions given to Moses on Mount Sinai. There were no other religions who God acknowledged as his own....in all the earth there was only one true religion whom God acknowledged.
It makes perfect sense.
regardless, from the time that the Israelites were freed from Egypt and made into a holy nation, they were Gods chosen people, no one else.
If you wanted to worship Jehovah, you would have to join that nation and submit to the priesthood. That priesthood administered all of the instructions given to Moses on Mount Sinai. There were no other religions who God acknowledged as his own....in all the earth there was only one true religion whom God acknowledged.
It makes perfect sense.
It's comments like this that make me truly question that Christianity somehow came out of Judaism.before Christ arrived, the only way for people of the nations (gentiles) to approach Jehovah God was by becoming a member of the Israelite nation, by submitting to the practices and religious laws as taught by the Levitical priesthood. Besides the nation of Israel, Jehovah God did not view people of nations as his own people. He would only accept Israelites and those who submitted to the law of moses as his worshipers.
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Actually, Judaism never taught that. By creating a situation, the Christian writers can then create a solution. But Judaism never demanded that anyone not part of the nation of Israel become part in order to reach God.before Christ arrived, the only way for people of the nations (gentiles) to approach Jehovah God was by becoming a member of the Israelite nation, by submitting to the practices and religious laws as taught by the Levitical priesthood. Besides the nation of Israel, Jehovah God did not view people of nations as his own people. He would only accept Israelites and those who submitted to the law of moses as his worshipers.
After Christ arrived, all mankind were free to approach Jehovah God through Christ. They no longer needed to get circumsized and live according to the law of Moses or become a proselyte of Israel. They could now worship Jehovah, and be accepted by him on the basis of Christs ransom sacrifice.
That priesthood is?
There is a priesthood that is older than the Levites, that of Melchizedek. How does he fit within the scheme of things?
This was actually being done long before Jesus came onto the scene because there were what were called "God-Fearers" (in English, of course), who believed in our God and worshiped him even though they did not have to observe the entire Law.After Christ arrived, all mankind were free to approach Jehovah God through Christ. They no longer needed to get circumsized and live according to the law of Moses or become a proselyte of Israel. They could now worship Jehovah, and be accepted by him on the basis of Christs ransom sacrifice.
If God considers worship to be important, then why would He wait until the time of Moses in order to supposedly give these instructions? Abraham and Noah were considered righteous in their times, so obviously something had to be there before Moshe.So the mosaic law was really the first time that God had directed mankind in how to worship him in an acceptable way.
Actually, Judaism never taught that. By creating a situation, the Christian writers can then create a solution. But Judaism never demanded that anyone not part of the nation of Israel become part in order to reach God.
If God considers worship to be important, then why would He wait until the time of Moses in order to supposedly give these instructions? Abraham and Noah were considered righteous in their times, so obviously something had to be there before Moshe.
First off, you are mistranslating the word "ger." It means "convert." If someone wishes to join, he may do so and be circumcised and then eat of the Passover offering. Someone who is not circumcised may not. Of course, eating of this offering is not something required of non-Jews so to say that they can't do it is not to say that they suffer any disadvantage.Exodus 12:48 If a foreigner resides with you and he wants to celebrate the Passover to Jehovah, every male of his must be circumcised. Then he may come near to celebrate it, and he will become like a native of the land. But no uncircumcised man may eat of it.+49 One law will apply for the native and for the foreigner who is residing among you.”
Ezekiel 14:7 For if any Israelite or foreign resident living in Israel separates himself from me and is determined to follow his disgusting idols and sets up a stumbling block that causes people to sin and then comes to inquire of my prophet,+ I, Jehovah, I will personally answer him. 8 I will set my face against that man and make him a warning sign and a proverbial saying, and I will cut him off from my people;+ and you will have to know that I am Jehovah.”’
The situation was that a foreigner who wanted join themselves to the nation of Israel they had to submit to the mosiac law in all respects according to Leviticus 24:22 “‘One judicial decision will apply for you, whether a foreign resident or a native,+ because I am Jehovah your God.’”
If they did not, they could not remain in the land. They were to be cut off from the nation.
Adherence to the mosaic law was the only way they could remain in Isreal.
First off, you are mistranslating the word "ger." It means "convert." If someone wishes to join, he may do so and be circumcised and then eat of the Passover offering. Someone who is not circumcised may not. Of course, eating of this offering is not something required of non-Jews so to say that they can't do it is not to say that they suffer any disadvantage.
So a foreigner who wanted to be bound to all the laws could convert but someone who did not want to could certainly still access God -- the Noachide laws ensured that generations before. Lev 24:22 talks about applying Mosaic law to a criminal -- there is one law for the person born as a Jew and one who converts. The same rules which bind one bind the other. Nothing to do with non-Jews who are bound by a separate set of laws.
So, again, the gospel accounts create a missed relationship where there is no such construct and then create a "solution" to it. Judaism existed before Jesus' time and we have a code of laws that existed prior to his life which affirms that non-Jews can still connect to the divine. Please do not characterize the Jewish attitude so that it accounts for the gospel's "fix." It wasn't broke.
No, not only is that wrong, but it is also not what I said. You have created another straw man. The Passover sacrifice was one particular expression commanded of the Jewish people. But other people can (in fact, according to Jewish law, MUST) worship God. One does not have to "submit to a priesthood" (which, btw, makes no sense in Judaism...just another invention) to recognize and worship.thats right, those who did not convert could not participate in the worship of Jehovah. God only recognised those who submitted to his priesthood and he only accepted those who submitted to his priesthood as his worshipers.
I think this is where the jewish teachers have it wrong. The noahide laws were given long before any priesthood was established. So those laws applied to everyone and even Abraham would have come under and submitted to those laws. They applied to all people of the earth beginning with Noah and his 3 sons who are the forefathers of all the tribes of the earth.
But when God introduced the mosaic law, things changed. Now worship was to be carried out through the levitical priesthood.
Um, no. It was to ensure that there was no idolatry. Judaism taught thousands of years ago that Joshua, as he readied to enter the land told the indigenous people that they could leave, fight or make peace and stay as long as they abandoned idolatry. ("Joshua sent three proclamations to Eretz Yisrael before Israel entered the Land: “Whoever wishes to leave, should leave; to make peace, should make peace; to make war, should make war.”) You are making a claim which simply does not represent Jewish thought.And when the Israelites went into the promised land, they were told quite clearly to remove all the nations who were dwelling in the land...this was to ensure that only those adhering to the mosaic law could dwell in the land.