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Can someone be against racism while not being a Black Panther/black nationalist?
There's more than two genders, last I checked, although two are predominant.
There are white anti-racist activists such as Tim Wise
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Can someone be against racism while not being a Black Panther/black nationalist?
There's more than two genders, last I checked, although two are predominant.
A man can be pro-feminism, but not a feminist. That is what I have been arguing this entire time. Words have definitions and meanings for a reason, yet no one on this topic has chosen to acknowledge that.I really don't understand what this has turned into... Can someone with male genitalia be a feminist? Yes, move on people.
Even if feminism is all about women and women's issues, can't a man be all about women? I think they can.
If its truly a theory or "a work in progress" then it should be able to withstand some criticism.It's a thinly veiled attempt to bash feminism and paint it as an exclusive fringe-club that doesn't believe in egalitarianism, and that males ought to stay away if they know what's best for them. No big deal. Feminism has seen this type of rhetoric for the last.....oh, I don't know....100 years.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
A man can be pro-feminism, but not a feminist. That is what I have been arguing this entire time. Words have definitions and meanings for a reason, yet no one on this topic has chosen to acknowledge that.
So no, a man cannot be a feminist, they can only be pro-feminism. Women dont speak for men and men dont speak for woman. That is the whole reason behind it. Maybe I just have a different view than everyone else on this topic, but its not an illegitimate one.
But you haven't explained why a man cannot be a feminist. A feminist deals with women's issues. Men can do that, they can deal with women's issues. Women can also deal with men's issues.A man can be pro-feminism, but not a feminist. That is what I have been arguing this entire time. Words have definitions and meanings for a reason, yet no one on this topic has chosen to acknowledge that.
What does "speaking for" entail?So no, a man cannot be a feminist, they can only be pro-feminism. Women dont speak for men and men dont speak for woman. That is the whole reason behind it. Maybe I just have a different view than everyone else on this topic, but its not an illegitimate one.
A man can be pro-feminism, but not a feminist. That is what I have been arguing this entire time. Words have definitions and meanings for a reason, yet no one on this topic has chosen to acknowledge that.
So no, a man cannot be a feminist, they can only be pro-feminism. Women dont speak for men and men dont speak for woman. That is the whole reason behind it. Maybe I just have a different view than everyone else on this topic, but its not an illegitimate one.
Blimey! You still having to defend your corner?
Men who defend female rights, or any other rights are perfectly justified in calling themselves egaliterians, which we both 'clicked' on earlier. If some men wish to call themselves something else, that's fine by me, because I am an egaliterian. (!)
But for anybody to suggest that we could be woman-haters because of our choice of name or title is simply perverse.
LOL did you catch that he said that a man CANNOT be a feminist?
Do you agree or disagree?
Can you explain the side that proclaims, "A man cannot be a feminist," to us?But I feel close to Uberonon.... in his choice of title for equality tenets.
Yes, transgendered people can be feminists too.Men can have feminine characteristics or traits, but to say they are feminist is implying a different meaning to the word of feminine or femininity.
No, you are changing the word of feminist and not giving an accurate representation (devaluing) as to what it is and actually means.Yes, transgendered people can be feminists too.
wiki said:Others, such as third-wave feminists and lipstick feminists, argue that feminism shouldn't devalue feminine culture and identity, and that symbols of feminine identity such as make-up, suggestive clothing and having a sexual allure can be valid and empowering personal choices for both sexes.[93][94]
I don't understand in what way I am devaluing it.No, you are changing the word of feminist and not giving an accurate representation (devaluing) as to what it is and actually means.
Hi.......... I agree that a man can be a feminist.. I think a man can choose to call himself anything he feels happy with, or correct with, so I am comfortable in accepting a feminist male as is. And so I feel that a man CAN be a feminist by title. And I feel that a woman, a feminist, could accept an equal rights activist male as an egalitarian. Both males having similar tenets in the area of female rights, but one choosing a title showing more focus upon that, whilst the other choosing to focus upon equal rights in a whole mass of varying areas. Both could, for instance, walk in a pro-feminine parade, or whatever.
But I feel close to Uberonon.... in his choice of title for equality tenets.
No, you are changing the word of feminist and not giving an accurate representation (devaluing) as to what it is and actually means.
Why wouldn't a male be able to believe what you quoted, though? That still doesn't answer the question of why you think males can't be feminists.