Yes, he's very locked in to his beliefs. I don't think I will ever let myself get locked in. There's too many variables.
As are many folks.
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Yes, he's very locked in to his beliefs. I don't think I will ever let myself get locked in. There's too many variables.
I don't think you understand the meaning of tolerance ... it simply means 'to allow to exist without direct interference'. So by that definition, you can disagree with another's faith as much as you want as long as you don't try to change them. By the same definition, proseltysing and evangelizing religions, by the nature of those actions, are intolerant.You mean you have some tolerance for religions that are like yours and no tolerance for religions followed by more than half the worlds population and can't be bothered considering anything that looks remotely Abrahamic.
Mmmm, no bet given on what I will choose
The Author of the Book, does not say it's a Christian Book. It's a Book of God (Revelation)
These really are not religions but cults based on a particular person.
I never knew about stone circles in W. Canada.On the tops of hills in remote areas of western Canada lie stone circles. The one we visited this summer was referred to as the Stonehenge of Canada by one researcher. It is at least 10 000 years old. My 'primitive' Hindu culture contains so much as well.
Of course he does. How many times have the Baha'i here said the same thing? ... that Baha'i books are books of God. Baha'u'llah didn't write them, but God wrote them through Baha'u'llah.
Personally, I don't trust anyone who claims to be writing on behalf of God.
I never knew about stone circles in W. Canada.
And twice as old as Stonehenge.
I travelled all over the UK when working, and loved to visit such ancient monuments as hill-forts, circles, henges and more recent castles and forts.
Offshore on a shingle bank off where I live there is a fish trap 100 yards long with circular end-keep. I understand that it is thousands of years old, and mammoth teeth and tusks have been dug up not far from it by bait diggers.
The Truth that we have found, and lost...............
Wow. It's not connected at all. Someone being direct on an internet forum isn't related to ethnic violence. But if you want to make that connection, go ahead. Maybe ask the mods to report him to the Delhi police to put him on their watch list. Huge stretch. But then logic isn't always the forte of the Baha'i either. I've heard therm claim that a human being can be God.
I don't like rude words or behaviour either, but it happens all the time on forums. Been accused of it myself, merely for disagreeing.
Thank you, and I agree with that, and I do see it. That's exactly why I think the world is fine as it is, and doesn't need changing, or the doom and gloom approach some Baha'is take. Optimism over pessimism. No 'manifestations' needed.
But then logic isn't always the forte of the Baha'i either. I've heard therm claim that a human being can be God.
Interesting that you see belief as a choice. Same as homosexuality I suppose. A choice. I don't see belief as a choice at all. To me, it's far more in the realm of a discovery. Watch, observe, listen, have experiences, and then find a belief system (maybe, maybe not) that more or less matches those experiences, those intuitive 'Ah Ha!' moments. That's thinking for yourself, not looking at a bunch of beliefs and picking the one that best entertains a selfish outcome, and convincing yourself you believe in it. That's too much like convincing yourself the prettiest girl in high school has eyes for you and you alone.
Seems I got my dates wrong. Only 5000 years old. And very speculative stuff. We went there last summer. If nothing else, very scenic and absolutely in the middle of nowhere.
Canada's Stonehenge - Wikipedia
The first reply above underestimates the power of the use of negation over affirmation.
Hindu and thoughts on Moksha vary but this is available;
Beyond caste, creed, family or lineage,
That which is without name and form, beyond merit and demerit, That which is beyond space, time and sense-objects,
You are that, God himself; Meditate this within yourself. ||Verse 254||
— Vivekachudamani, 8th Century AD[17]
Negation, as I'm reading this, is anything that disagrees with the Baha'i philosophy.
How do we explain these Great Beings: Buddha, Moses, Krishna, Christ, Zoroaster, Muhammad, the Bab & Bahaullah? They are somewhat unique and unparalleled in human history and were clearly not ordinary people.
There are famous people in history, famous artists, musicians and scientists but none can compare to the influence of the Educator, Teacher, Messiah or Prophet.
But Who were they? And why were they and still are so influential throughout history? Why did they inspire civilizations? Why have their scriptures become patterns of life followed daily by billions of people for thousands of years?
What gift did they possess to be able to be persecuted, oppressed, tortured, exiled and crucified by the most despotic and powerful leaders of their age with but a handful of followers and yet eventually triumph over adversity and establish Their Cause all over the world?
Statues, Churches, Temples, Pagodas, Mosques and Synagogues are built all over the world to pay tribute to these Great Souls.
Are they from another world? Did they pre exist? Without a special power how could they have accomplished what they did and who is their equal in influence?
And aren't we in dire need of another Great Spiritual Teacher to revive us spiritually?
It is not unusual for near-death experiencers returning from clinical death to report having received information concerning their pre-existence before they were conceived in the world. Some experiencers report of learning how they chose various aspects of their lives to be predestined before they were born. Some of the choices people have reported having chosen before birth include the selection of their birth parents, choosing their mission in life, and even choosing how they will die. This knowledge received by near-death experiencers of the past and future shows how some things in life are predestined while other things are not. It shows how free will and predestination both exist and work hand in hand. It means we choose our destiny in life before our birth into the world to live it. Because reincarnation is a concept found in many cultures and religions, the metaphor of life as a river which we chose before we were our birth, shows up in many of these cultures and religions. There are many aspects to a river which make it an excellent analogy to help us understand where we came from, where we're going, who we are, why we're here, and what life is all about. The following discussion will attempt to do just that.
Vivelachudamani is reaffirming that all of humanity is divine, or at least has the potential to be divine. He is saying to all men ... at the essence you are divine. I'm quite surprised that you would quote it, as it contradicts Abrahamic and Baha'i thought.
Wow. It's not connected at all. Someone being direct on an internet forum isn't related to ethnic violence. But if you want to make that connection, go ahead. Maybe ask the mods to report him to the Delhi police to put him on their watch list. Huge stretch. But then logic isn't always the forte of the Baha'i either. I've heard therm claim that a human being can be God.
I don't like rude words or behaviour either, but it happens all the time on forums. Been accused of it myself, merely for disagreeing.
In other words, if I say I disagree, it's negation, but when you say something, anything at ll, it's positive affirmation. Good versus bad. Got it.Negation is as it says it is. It is any negativity. It can be clothed in good intentions.
I don't think you understand the meaning of tolerance ... it simply means 'to allow to exist without direct interference'. So by that definition, you can disagree with another's faith as much as you want as long as you don't try to change them. By the same definition, proseltysing and evangelizing religions, by the nature of those actions, are intolerant.
Baha'u'llah says this is latent within us all. It is choice and effort in practice that brings it from us.
There is nothing intolerant I can see about one person sharing their faith with another who is interested to hear it.