Has Greta studied this?

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Greta is one of many indoctrinated school age youth.

Greta Thunberg Joins a Long List of 'Indoctrinated' Child Activists

She's certainly not the first and won't be the last as more will be churned out of the alarmist mill as they graduate from their indoctrination.

Indoctrination, meaning they are receiving a basic education that includes:

-an understanding of the Carbon Cycle and Greenhouse effect
-how human activity such as burning fossil fuels, deforestation, and urban sprawl impact the Carbon Cycle and Greenhouse effect
-the effects of ecosystem disruption and industrial activity on human health
-an appreciation for the environment and other species beyond human benefit.

 

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Indoctrination, meaning they are receiving a basic education that includes:

-an understanding of the Carbon Cycle and Greenhouse effect
-how human activity such as burning fossil fuels, deforestation, and urban sprawl impact the Carbon Cycle and Greenhouse effect
-the effects of ecosystem disruption and industrial activity on human health
-an appreciation for the environment and other species beyond human benefit.

Won't matter. We only have under 12 years to live. Remember?

A credit to the facility and staff for her clearly fine 'education' .

 

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Indoctrination, meaning they are receiving a basic education that includes:

-an understanding of the Carbon Cycle and Greenhouse effect
-how human activity such as burning fossil fuels, deforestation, and urban sprawl impact the Carbon Cycle and Greenhouse effect
-the effects of ecosystem disruption and industrial activity on human health
-an appreciation for the environment and other species beyond human benefit.

Educating their youth. Why . . .why. . . that's criminal!

 

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Won't matter. We only have under 12 years to live. Remember?

A credit to the facility and staff for her clearly fine education .

Who says that? Please quote and link.

 

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How can Mann’s theory be peer reviewed if he continues to refuse to turn over the data behind his graph?

Transparency is the key to credibility.



“Climate science community in crisis”

Technocracy.news goes on to explain the ultimate ramifications of this court decision:

A bitter and embarrassing defeat for the self-styled ‘Nobel Prize winner’ who acted as if he was the epitome of virtue, this outcome shames not only Michael Mann, but puts the climate science community in crisis. Many hundreds of peer-reviewed papers cite Mann’s work, which is now effectively junked. Despite having deep-pocketed backers willing and able to feed his ego as a publicity-seeking mouthpiece against skeptics, Mann’s credibility as a champion of environmentalism is in tatters. But it gets worse for the litigious Penn State professor. Close behind Dr Ball is celebrated writer Mark Steyn. Steyn also defends himself against another one of Mann’s SLAPP suits – this time in Washington DC. Steyn boldly claims Mann “has perverted the norms of science on an industrial scale.” Esteemed American climate scientist, Dr Judith Curry, has submitted to the court an Amicus Curiae legal brief exposing Mann. The world can now see that his six-year legal gambit to silence his most effective critics and chill scientific debate has spectacularly backfired.

Punishment for Civil Contempt

Mann's now proven contempt of court means Ball is entitled to have the court serve upon Mann the fullest punishment. Contempt sanctions could reasonably include the judge ruling that Dr. Ball's statement that Mann "belongs in the state pen, not Penn. State' is a precise and true statement of fact. This is because under Canada's unique 'Truth Defense', Mann is now proven to have wilfully hidden his data, so the court may rule he hid it because it is fake. As such, the court must then dismiss Mann's entire libel suit with costs awarded to Ball and his team.

 

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Won't matter. We only have under 12 years to live. Remember?

A credit to the facility and staff for her clearly fine 'education' .

Considering the claim is based around how climate change impacts human civilization, this may be an overblown statement, but does not change the basis of the science itself.

Fears around the impact of climate change are justified. As long as the science is understood, as schools are clearly doing.

Do you deny the negative effects of a changing climate and the impact of human industry on the environment?

 

[Notanumber]

This is an interesting and informative interview.

 

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How can Mann’s theory be peer reviewed if he continues to refuse to turn over the data behind his graph?

Transparency is the key to credibility.



“Climate science community in crisis”

Technocracy.news goes on to explain the ultimate ramifications of this court decision:

A bitter and embarrassing defeat for the self-styled ‘Nobel Prize winner’ who acted as if he was the epitome of virtue, this outcome shames not only Michael Mann, but puts the climate science community in crisis. Many hundreds of peer-reviewed papers cite Mann’s work, which is now effectively junked. Despite having deep-pocketed backers willing and able to feed his ego as a publicity-seeking mouthpiece against skeptics, Mann’s credibility as a champion of environmentalism is in tatters. But it gets worse for the litigious Penn State professor. Close behind Dr Ball is celebrated writer Mark Steyn. Steyn also defends himself against another one of Mann’s SLAPP suits – this time in Washington DC. Steyn boldly claims Mann “has perverted the norms of science on an industrial scale.” Esteemed American climate scientist, Dr Judith Curry, has submitted to the court an Amicus Curiae legal brief exposing Mann. The world can now see that his six-year legal gambit to silence his most effective critics and chill scientific debate has spectacularly backfired.

Punishment for Civil Contempt

Mann's now proven contempt of court means Ball is entitled to have the court serve upon Mann the fullest punishment. Contempt sanctions could reasonably include the judge ruling that Dr. Ball's statement that Mann "belongs in the state pen, not Penn. State' is a precise and true statement of fact. This is because under Canada's unique 'Truth Defense', Mann is now proven to have wilfully hidden his data, so the court may rule he hid it because it is fake. As such, the court must then dismiss Mann's entire libel suit with costs awarded to Ball and his team.

What are you talking about? His work probably already went through peer review.

And appealing to loon sites is no way to win a scientific debate. I have noticed that most do not even know what Mann's Hockey stick graph is because they tend to mistake any graph covering the same period as a "hockey stick".

You also do not appear to know why Mann's case was thrown out and that he did not lose. At least not in the way that the dishonest sources that you rely on try to claim. Okay, this site is definitely a bit left wing, but it is far less loony than the sources that you rely upon:

Tim Ball Pleads For Mercy As An Irrelevant Sick Old Man, Gets It, Declares Victory

 

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Another site echos the Daily Kos:

Stayin' Alive: The truth about the Michael Mann - Tim Ball lawsuit

Some pertinent facts:

Mann sued the people that published Ball's claims and won:

Michael E. Mann took climate change deniers to court. They apologized.

The judge in Mann's case against Ball essentially called Ball and idiot and said that no sane person would believe him:

"" The truth is that Ball asked that the suit be dismissed because Ball is old and sick, and also because nobody believed him anyway.

In reality, the court tossed the case in what appears to be an act of pity for Tim Ball. As a statement from Mann’s lawyer explained, Ball’s request to terminate the lawsuit “relied heavily on his alleged state of health” and because, per Ball’s defense team, his claims are “given no credibility by the average, reasonable reader.” (An assessment bolstered by the fact that in a similar suit, a judge ruled that “a reasonably thoughtful and informed person… is unlikely to place any stock in Dr. Ball’s views.”)"

If science deniers want that to be called "winning" it is the strangest usage that I have seen.

 

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Debunking the "Simple Physics" Slogan About Climate Change : climateskeptics

or is time she went back to school?

That was a pointless introduction in the video . Many things in science are often presented in a much simpler way when given to the general public. So what? That does not make CO2 emissions unimportant since it is one of the few contributors that we can make a difference in. Climate is anything but simple but presenting the information has to be simplified enough for people to understand to take action.

There are other critical threats that have not been addressed on the scale of global warming that equally will lead to the extinction of humans
1. Environmental damage to our ecosystems/loss of habitat and biodiversity.
2. Human made material sink in the environment.
3. Over population.
Climate change happens to be the most immediate even if it is not the most important.
Telling Gretchen to go back to school is so childish. Sounds like something Trump would say.

 

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If you think that video is 20 minutes long, you must have watched it twice.

You can tell when a video is making some good points when YouTube finds it necessary to put a banner to global warming propaganda underneath it.

Water vapour has a greater effect than CO2. Are they going to tax water vapour?

Anyone that does not agree with the consensus is lucky to keep his or her job never mind receive a Nobel Prize. Fortunately, this does not deter those with a conscience.

BTW, who considered and rejected solar activity, the change in the Earth's orbit and volcanic activities?

Do you have a link?

Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant.

Was it high levels of carbon dioxide that brought the earth out of the mini ice age?

If so, was that manmade?

NO CO2 is not a pollutant - very insightful. It is the one gas we have some control over unless you think taking water vapor out of the atmosphere is a serous consideration. We certainty do not need rain anywhere in the world. We can control the amount of CO2 released from our activity.

 

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Those that support the Climate Change Ideology are scared of discussion, that’s why they attack those with differing views.

That's ridiculous propaganda on your part. Why would you say anything so false?

 

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How can Mann’s theory be peer reviewed if he continues to refuse to turn over the data behind his graph?

Transparency is the key to credibility.



“Climate science community in crisis”

Technocracy.news goes on to explain the ultimate ramifications of this court decision:

A bitter and embarrassing defeat for the self-styled ‘Nobel Prize winner’ who acted as if he was the epitome of virtue, this outcome shames not only Michael Mann, but puts the climate science community in crisis. Many hundreds of peer-reviewed papers cite Mann’s work, which is now effectively junked. Despite having deep-pocketed backers willing and able to feed his ego as a publicity-seeking mouthpiece against skeptics, Mann’s credibility as a champion of environmentalism is in tatters. But it gets worse for the litigious Penn State professor. Close behind Dr Ball is celebrated writer Mark Steyn. Steyn also defends himself against another one of Mann’s SLAPP suits – this time in Washington DC. Steyn boldly claims Mann “has perverted the norms of science on an industrial scale.” Esteemed American climate scientist, Dr Judith Curry, has submitted to the court an Amicus Curiae legal brief exposing Mann. The world can now see that his six-year legal gambit to silence his most effective critics and chill scientific debate has spectacularly backfired.

Punishment for Civil Contempt

Mann's now proven contempt of court means Ball is entitled to have the court serve upon Mann the fullest punishment. Contempt sanctions could reasonably include the judge ruling that Dr. Ball's statement that Mann "belongs in the state pen, not Penn. State' is a precise and true statement of fact. This is because under Canada's unique 'Truth Defense', Mann is now proven to have wilfully hidden his data, so the court may rule he hid it because it is fake. As such, the court must then dismiss Mann's entire libel suit with costs awarded to Ball and his team.

And if you had looked, not very hard, you would have found the data behind Mann's graphs:

Index of /holocene/public_html/shared/research/MANNETAL98

How many ways has this post been demolished now?

 

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The future does seem scary when you consider this –

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That's wishful thinking on your part. No wonder the human race is doomed when people are ignorant of what is happening.

 

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Climate change propaganda is designed by the United Nations for one thing only: to stampede the world into Sustainable Development and its green agenda. It masquerades as benevolence saving the world, but is harmful to the world and anti-human. ⁃ TN Editor

In 2004 the perpetrators and perpetuators of the Global Warming deception at the University of East Anglia realized the CO2 level continued to rise, but temperatures stopped increasing. It was what Thomas Huxley described as the great tragedy of science the slaying of a lovely hypothesis by an ugly fact. The climate deceivers didn’t skip a beat, they changed the issue from global warming to climate change.

Dr. Tim Ball: Seven Ways To Spot Climate Change Propaganda

UPDATE – Dr. Tim Ball wins @MichaelEMann lawsuit – Mann “hides the decline” AGAIN

Now I understand. You pick a professor that believes evolution and environmentalism as a religion and has creationist viewpoints who was in the department of geography with historic climate studies. No wonder you no nothing about climate change. Your source tell all.

 

[Bear Wild]

How can Mann’s theory be peer reviewed if he continues to refuse to turn over the data behind his graph?

Transparency is the key to credibility.



“Climate science community in crisis”

Technocracy.news goes on to explain the ultimate ramifications of this court decision:

A bitter and embarrassing defeat for the self-styled ‘Nobel Prize winner’ who acted as if he was the epitome of virtue, this outcome shames not only Michael Mann, but puts the climate science community in crisis. Many hundreds of peer-reviewed papers cite Mann’s work, which is now effectively junked. Despite having deep-pocketed backers willing and able to feed his ego as a publicity-seeking mouthpiece against skeptics, Mann’s credibility as a champion of environmentalism is in tatters. But it gets worse for the litigious Penn State professor. Close behind Dr Ball is celebrated writer Mark Steyn. Steyn also defends himself against another one of Mann’s SLAPP suits – this time in Washington DC. Steyn boldly claims Mann “has perverted the norms of science on an industrial scale.” Esteemed American climate scientist, Dr Judith Curry, has submitted to the court an Amicus Curiae legal brief exposing Mann. The world can now see that his six-year legal gambit to silence his most effective critics and chill scientific debate has spectacularly backfired.

Punishment for Civil Contempt

Mann's now proven contempt of court means Ball is entitled to have the court serve upon Mann the fullest punishment. Contempt sanctions could reasonably include the judge ruling that Dr. Ball's statement that Mann "belongs in the state pen, not Penn. State' is a precise and true statement of fact. This is because under Canada's unique 'Truth Defense', Mann is now proven to have wilfully hidden his data, so the court may rule he hid it because it is fake. As such, the court must then dismiss Mann's entire libel suit with costs awarded to Ball and his team.

TECHNOCRACY.COM. That is your source? Really. Scientific no biased yes. You have to do better than that. What next the national inquirer?

 

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And if you had looked, not very hard, you would have found the data behind Mann's graphs:

Index of /holocene/public_html/shared/research/MANNETAL98

How many ways has this post been demolished now?

Does this remind you of any of the arguments about evolution?

 

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Does this remind you of any of the arguments about evolution?

Just about identical.

And in evolution I continually offer to go over the basics of evidence, no takers. Here I have offered to go over the basics of just the Greenhouse Effect. Again, no takers. Just like creationists they do not want to know, they want excuses to keep believing as they have been believing.

 

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Promoters of Climate Change rely on character assassination and lengthy lawsuits funded by their wealthy backers.

Breaking News: Dr Tim Ball Defeats Michael Mann's Climate Lawsuit! | PSI Intl

Mann and his backers are using the same tactic with Mark Steyn’s court case.

Mark Steyn: ‘Michael E Mann, Loser’ – Calls Mann ‘Doctor Fraudpants’ – Mann loses lawsuit against skeptical scientist

For a start, although Mann always presents himself as the victim, it is important to remember that, in this case as in mine, he is the plaintiff: He chose to sue – and without that conscious choice there would be no legal action. So, when Mann says there was no “finding that Ball’s allegations were correct”, Ball did not allege anything: That is a legal term and the only allegations before the Court were Mann’s, in his statement of claim against Ball. Those Mann allegations have been dismissed with prejudice – so, in layman’s terms, Mann lost and Ball won.

 

[Bear Wild]

Promoters of Climate Change rely on character assassination and lengthy lawsuits funded by their wealthy backers.

Breaking News: Dr Tim Ball Defeats Michael Mann's Climate Lawsuit! | PSI Intl

Mann and his backers are using the same tactic with Mark Steyn’s court case.

Mark Steyn: ‘Michael E Mann, Loser’ – Calls Mann ‘Doctor Fraudpants’ – Mann loses lawsuit against skeptical scientist

For a start, although Mann always presents himself as the victim, it is important to remember that, in this case as in mine, he is the plaintiff: He chose to sue – and without that conscious choice there would be no legal action. So, when Mann says there was no “finding that Ball’s allegations were correct”, Ball did not allege anything: That is a legal term and the only allegations before the Court were Mann’s, in his statement of claim against Ball. Those Mann allegations have been dismissed with prejudice – so, in layman’s terms, Mann lost and Ball won.

Is this really the best you can do. Dr. Tim Ball is not an active scientist studying current and does not believe CO2 is even a part of the green house effect contrary to the climatologist you first posted. Are you willing to make the same claim that CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere has now effect?