God's Creation, and Some Misconceptions

[sayak83]

I was thinking that wouldn't this only be valid at the quantum level? Jesus' body would have to have been smaller than an atom, and all the disciples themselves inside of the subatomic world in order to witness this type of event. Wouldn't they?

This thread has already zoomed off to the real of comic absurdity. So anything is possible...like Alice in Wonderland.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

do not the bible also contain Science also?

The Bible attempts to do what science attempts to do, which is to explain how the world got to be as we find it and how it works. For example, why does man have to eke out a living while women suffer in childbirth, then eventually get sick and die, rather than live forever in paradise, like a garden where one just plucks his meal from a tree? Why do we speak different languages? Assuming a tri-omni deity, why isn't the world better for us?

But biblical mythicists were just speculating after assuming the existence of a god, and generating stories that conform to that foundational belief, whereas man eventually learned that he needs to consult nature directly rather than holy books to unravel its secrets, something none of the mythicists understood, which is why there are so many disparate creation myths. They're untethered to reality.

prove the bible wrong

There is no burden of proof except with another critical thinker. Disproof (falsification) is a cooperative effort requiring that both participants be able to judge whether a conclusion is sound, and possess the willingness to change one's mind when seeing a sound conclusion that falsifies one's beliefs (open-mindedness). Faith puts an end to that.

that sounds like a personal Opinion to me, which do not count.

Except when they are your own, correct? Every declarative statement you've posted is a statement of personal belief, even the belief that they are facts, or that they come from a god and are found in a specific book, or even that a god exists. Those are all personal opinions for you, none of which the atheist shares.

be like a child when coming to the Lord Jesus, get rid of that baggage that corrupt the mind

This is the language within religion that translates to avoid education and learning critical thinking skills. Sometimes we are exhorted to ignore the wisdom of the world, sometimes to be more humble, to esteem faith as a virtue, or see submission as a virtue - all in the service of keeping that mind childlike and preventing thinking that can serve as a defense to indoctrination. These values are exactly the opposite of humanisms' values, which esteem reason over faith, education over childlike thinking, and autonomy over dependence.

 

[Subduction Zone]

well it has been proven that scholars LIE, be they biblical one's or not.

101G.

No. That has not happened. Don't get mad just because you believe a book of myths.

 

[Subduction Zone]

personal Opinion again? U know what 101G do with personal Opinions.
now is the site lying because it do not agree with your assessment? then prove why instead of belly aching about it

101G.

No. Not personal opinion. Do you make that claim every time that you know that you are wrong?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Good, be like a child when coming to the Lord Jesus, get rid of that baggage that corrupt the mind

next time the Children Adam and Eve had in the Garden before they had Cain and Able outside the Garden... with sciencetific..... proof from the bible until them READ CHAPTER 3 of Genesis.

101G.

Oh my. Science does not "prove" things. But it can disprove things. Such as the Adam and Eve myth.

Do you remember how you broke your word with me?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Why not? do not the bible also contain Science also?

101G.

lol, no

 

[101G]

Do I get that right, you don't deny having only a fifth grade education? How old are you?

personal opinions again...... next.

101G.

 

[Subduction Zone]

personal opinions again...... next.

101G.

If you want to learn people will help you. Otherwise you just make yourself a laughingstock.

 

[101G]

Are all instances of stories recorded in ancient scriptures and books of people appearing and disappearing show their ability to use quantum mechanics?
Because we have far better examples of this ancient ability in our incarnations of so...
Miracles of Lord Sri Krishna

and?

101G

Ah!
The moving the goalposts by re-defining the meaning of a word.
I read no further

Science: the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment:

191G

 

[101G]

Around 500 BC because the finalization of the Old Testament scriptures are dated to the period of the Babylonian captivity which was longer than (1) day. There is no specific date of the final writing.

but was the event before the OT finalization?

101G.

 

[101G]

No, it doesn't.

I believe that The Bible contains many things of great spiritual, philosophical and literary value, but it doesn't contain anything that ought to be classified as science.

your personal opinion? instead of addressing the question imposed, many go to their, myths, fine but address the questions.

101G.

 

[101G]

So you think there was a global flood, and that people survived on a massive ship with thousands of animals for a year? And from these organisms all life spread and reproduced to what is observed today?

don't you?

101G.

 

[101G]

The Bible attempts to do what science attempts to do, which is to explain how the world got to be as we find it and how it works. For example, why does man have to eke out a living while women suffer in childbirth, then eventually get sick and die, rather than live forever in paradise, like a garden where one just plucks his meal from a tree? Why do we speak different languages? Assuming a tri-omni deity, why isn't the world better for us?

But biblical mythicists were just speculating after assuming the existence of a god, and generating stories that conform to that foundational belief, whereas man eventually learned that he needs to consult nature directly rather than holy books to unravel its secrets, something none of the mythicists understood, which is why there are so many disparate creation myths. They're untethered to reality.



There is no burden of proof except with another critical thinker. Disproof (falsification) is a cooperative effort requiring that both participants be able to judge whether a conclusion is sound, and possess the willingness to change one's mind when seeing a sound conclusion that falsifies one's beliefs (open-mindedness). Faith puts an end to that.



Except when they are your own, correct? Every declarative statement you've posted is a statement of personal belief, even the belief that they are facts, or that they come from a god and are found in a specific book, or even that a god exists. Those are all personal opinions for you, none of which the atheist shares.



This is the language within religion that translates to avoid education and learning critical thinking skills. Sometimes we are exhorted to ignore the wisdom of the world, sometimes to be more humble, to esteem faith as a virtue, or see submission as a virtue - all in the service of keeping that mind childlike and preventing thinking that can serve as a defense to indoctrination. These values are exactly the opposite of humanisms' values, which esteem reason over faith, education over childlike thinking, and autonomy over dependence.

I'll get to the Child bearing.

101G

 

[101G]

No. That has not happened. Don't get mad just because you believe a book of myths.

personal opinions again, and again.///// YIKES!

101G.

 

[101G]

No. Not personal opinion. Do you make that claim every time that you know that you are wrong?

you say. ..... (smile) ..... lol, lol, lol..... Oh dear!

101G.

 

[101G]

Oh my. Science does not "prove" things. But it can disprove things. Such as the Adam and Eve myth.

Do you remember how you broke your word with me?

you say ....... (smile)

101G.

 

[Heyo]

personal opinions again...... next.

101G.

No opinion, just questions - which you chose to ignore. I'll give you a second chance.

 

[101G]

If you want to learn people will help you. Otherwise you just make yourself a laughingstock.

personal opinions again, why not address the topic?

101G.

 

[Subduction Zone]

personal opinions again, and again.///// YIKES!

101G.

Nope. I can support my claims properly. You are the one with just an opinion.

Once again, this is the science and religion part of the forum. You need to be able to support your claims with science.

 

[Subduction Zone]

personal opinions again, why not address the topic?

101G.

I did, why do you keep making false claims about others? Isn't there some sort of Commandment about that?