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Getting to the truth of religious matters.
- Thread starter Silver
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For most of them in theory
Balance...also creationism is false and nature is nature.
Silver
Just maybe
I think that if you can wade through being tortured and BBQ'd for eternity you may find a cup of Human kindness somewhere.
dyanaprajna2011
Dharmapala
I think friendship is natural, probably also biological. But yeah, I think those qualities are inherent in every religion. They just don't always come out in practice.
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
Because evolution.
No. Not even necessarily most of them, given what a "central message" constitutes can be disputed. I would be loathe to oversimplify my path into a single "central message."
Yes they are biologicaly nessacary to a social animal the problem arises trying to uses these on large groups.instead of the tribal level
Yes, that would be the real world application of religions.
　
Let me start by saying there's the animal kingdom and above that is the divine kingdoms. Animals live in the animal kingdom. Each species finds its best way to thrive and reproduce itself. Carnivorous animals found their niche to thrive in.
Man is the most advanced animal. He is transitioning from the animal level to the divine level. The teachings of religions (love, peace & friendship) are what propel the transition.
Try to realize the old-fashioned 'fire and brimstone' mentality is so first half of last century.....It seems non-believers talk about that kind of message more than believers.
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-Peacemaker-
.45 Cal
The central message of Christianity is forgiveness, not some kumbaya feel good universalist message
outhouse
Atheistically
Nope, has it ever been that?
ancient mens mythology, was never a "feel good" experiance
it was born out of hardship, oppression, need and want all based on the human emotional experience from barbaric times.
The OP was talking about religious messages in 2012 AD. And I basically agree with the OP. It has evolved from ancient times.
Only to people who wear love, peace and friendship glasses to their 'reading' of every religion. Some people never take them off. It doesn't appeal to me, but to each his own. (I prefer individuality and self empowerment glasses.
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Breathe
Hostis humani generis
My experience as well.
You don't know much about world rleigions, do you?
Skwim
Veteran Member
Not fire and brimstone at all, just the fact that all religions (Shintoism being a possible exception) emphasize that if you don't get in line with their beliefs you're going to pay for it. A few examples:
JUDAISM:
"Only truly righteous souls ascend directly to Gan Eden, say the sages. The average person descends to a place of punishment and/or purification, generally referred to as Gehinnom."
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CHRISTIANITY:
"The New Testament of the Christian Bible promises the faithful eternal life. The blessed inherit "the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world" (Matt. 25:34)
If faith is the way to heaven, hell begins even before death, when the faithless soul endures isolation and disorientation."
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ISLAM:
"Muslims, no matter how bad they were, will win Paradise as their Ultimate Reward after they receive their punishment.
As for the Disbelievers, beside from the punishment of their bad deeds that they committed in life, it seems that Allah Almighty Will give them extra punishment for disbelieving in Him or in Joining partners with Him, such as Paganism and Trinity; "They do blaspheme who say: 'Allah is Christ the son of Mary.' But said Christ: 'O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.' Whoever joins other gods with Allah - Allah will forbid him the Garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrongdoers be no one to help. (The Holy Quran, 5:72)"
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HINDUISM:
"According to the Upanishads, our actions connect us to this world of appearances, which is in fact illusory. What is real is Brahman, the ultimate reality that transcends our sensory experiences. Unfortunately, we live in ignorance of Brahman and act according to our illusions. This action (karma) causes us to participate in the cycle of death and rebirth (samsara – see next section) from which it’s difficult to escape. Thus, if you can escape your ignorance and realize that ultimately you are not you but Brahman itself, then you can achieve release from the cycle of death and rebirth. This release is called moksha."
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BUDDHISM:
"We believe…. spiritual rebirth is the direct result of awakening and entrusting ourselves (shinjin) to our transcending One Life
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We believe… without severing blind passions, one attains Nirvana. Spiritual rebirth through the nembutsu allows us to live at the juncture of the historical and ultimate dimensions; this corresponds to Shinran’s statement, “I am neither monk nor layman.”
We believe…eternal salvation is here and now, and regardless of your race, gender, moral status, age, religion, intelligence or education, all can experience this inner reality by just awakening to and entrusting themselves in the One Life, and voicing the nembutsu."
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ZOROASTRIANSIM:
"[Chinvat]The Bridge of Separation, as it’s also known, is the one that all people must walk after they die. For the righteous it broadens and leads to a beautiful maiden, but for the less than righteous, it turns on its side and becomes like a razor."
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Edited to note: These religions cover 75% of the world's population.
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