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PICJAG.
How do you know this? What evidence is there that you understand the scriptures, and have holy spirit?
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Thank you.YES
PICJAG.
ok, no problem, ask what you don't understand, and if I can answer, fine. but if I don't know the answer to your question I will not answer, because I will not lie in trying to impress someone. if I don't know the answer to your question we will go in pray and seek the gudiance of the one who knows, the Holy Spirit, who will teach us. fair enough?@101G the scriptures are indeed not ideas.
I was referring to your ideas about scripture.
There is a difference there. Your ideas are not supported by scripture, therefore your ideas cannot be truth and facts, but what we read in scripture is.
We just need to understand them.
see post #122.Thank you.
How do you know this? What evidence is there that you understand the scriptures, and have holy spirit?
I don't have any questions for you 101G.ok, no problem, ask what you don't understand, and if I can answer, fine. but if I don't know the answer to your question I will not answer, because I will not lie in trying to impress someone. if I don't know the answer to your question we will go in pray and seek the gudiance of the one who knows, the Holy Spirit, who will teach us. fair enough?
PICJAG.
Oh. Okay, so you don't know the answers to those questions. Is that what you are saying?see post #122.
PICJAG.
As said, ask God, and he will give you understanding.I don't have any questions for you 101G.
I was simply saying that the Bible has the truth, and facts. It's a matter of us understanding the scriptures.
You say, I have posted, it's up to you to reprove me or correct me if you disagree. and you must use scriptures to reprove me or to correct me.Oh. Okay, so you don't know the answers to those questions. Is that what you are saying?
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
— Genesis 6:1–4, KJV
first thanks for your reply. if one read the record, Cain knew her in nod, not met her ther but knew her there, meaning had sex, for she was his wife.There are many things that can be answered both by other verses but as well as good guesses. Adam and Eve had many sons and daughters which at least a few already have quoted. The wife from Nod may make sense even though there were so few people on Earth. It can have been a niece to one of the unnamed siblings. Since the people back then lived very long they probably didn't live on the same spot the entire extended family. They probably gave space and moved away a bit from each other.
Later on, the question is who are the sons of God in this case?
The Nephilim are from a much, much older Babylonian myth.
You do realize that you asked for the wrong source for back up, don't you? The scriptures do not tell you the myths that they were based upon. Now if you would like I could supply the myths that the Noah's Ark myth is based upon. You are probably aware of it already.Again with the negatives with no scriptural back up......
The Nephilim were destroyed in the flood. The myths that sprang from the tales told after the flood relate to very tall races of people physically unrelated to these half human monsters who had no right to live and hence why none survived the deluge.
The Nephilim were the “mighty ones,” the gib·bo·rimʹ, mentioned in the latter part of verse. For example: “In those days, as well as afterward, there were giants [Heb., han·nephi·limʹ] on the earth, who were born to the sons of the gods whenever they had intercourse with the daughters of men; these were the heroes [Heb., hag·gib·bo·rimʹ] who were men of note in days of old.” (Genesis 6:4 AT)
as for the sons of God, this term is only used of HUMANS, and not angels.
I never quite understand what these sort of comments are meant to imply. Abram was from UR, he was a Chaldean in the very region where the events of Genesis and the flood took place.The Nephilim are from a much, much older Babylonian myth.
so we suggest you study this, for there are two lines from Adam. one line sinless born in the garden, and a line born outside the garden in sin. for the bible is written for us who are in that line outside the garden, now available to be restored to pardise lost..
thanks for the reply, second, another wise tale fable made up, without understanding of scripture.Job 38:7...
“when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? (21KJV)
These are angels applauding the creation. In existence before humans.
Job 1:6...
“Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them.”
Sons of God and Satan along with them.....angels.
Job knew nothing of this assembly...was he not a “son of God” seeing as how he was the most righteous man alive at the time?![]()
Okay. No problem.As said, ask God, and he will give you understanding.
You say, I have posted, it's up to you to reprove me or correct me if you disagree. and you must use scriptures to reprove me or to correct me.
THIS IS WHAT I"M SAYING
PICJAG.
I get it straight from the scripture, and the understanding is by the teaching of the Holy Spirit.It is your opinion that there are two lines of humans....but Adam and his wife did not have children until they were expelled from the garden....this is what Genesis says.....but apparently your take on scripture trumps everyone else’s because you get your info straight from the holy spirit....? Right?
I'll let the Lord God almighty answer that, Deuteronomy 18:22 "When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him."Who said? Do you know how many other people there are in this world who try to peddle whacked out ideas as if they came straight from God? No one can convince them either.....
Look, if you have something different, PUT IT ON THE TABLE FOR DISCUSSION. if it's TRUE then the SCRIPTURES will stand, but if false it will fall.The “two lines of humans” do not gel with the rest of scripture.....in fact they invalidate what was accomplished by Christ’s sacrificial death.....but no matter what you are shown, you stick to your own ideas as if they were your children. That’s OK....just don’t expect anyone with a modicum of Bible knowledge to agree with you.
not saying that you're right or wrong, but consider this, Let's take this one step at a time.Notice the sequence of events.
In Genesis 1:26-28, the male and female are created.
God does not say how he did it, nor does he give any details on anything... he just described his creative events.
Why are you not willing to consider what I write?not saying that you're right or wrong, but consider this, Let's take this one step at a time.
#1. we say the man/Adam was formed/made on day #3. and that the sexes/Gender (Male and Female) was created on day 6. so if you don't mind lets examine one thing at a time, ok.
if so, you can respond to the above assessment of man being formed on day #3.
PICJAG.
Look, if you have something different, PUT IT ON THE TABLE FOR DISCUSSION. if it's TRUE then the SCRIPTURES will stand, but if false it will fall.