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First woman since 1953 to be executed.

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Vinayaka, Oct 17, 2020.

  1. Vinayaka

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  2. Secret Chief

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    Seems a bit sexist.
     
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    Wow, what a sordid crime though. strangling a pregnant woman, then cutting out the baby to then kidnap it? That's some weird and creepy stuff.

    On another note though, death penalty should be abolished.
     
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    Why do you think so, may I ask... Is it immoral in your opinion?
     
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    @Vinayaka. Off topic. Was there an issue on Near Death Experiences thread?
    Just curious cause I was about to comment but it said error.
     
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    So what is the complaint, the barbaric death penalty or the blatant sex discrimination?
     
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  8. Vinayaka

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    Not that I'm aware of.

    Editted ... yeah i see it's not there now. Maybe OP deleted it.
     
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    Are we talking about this because we're taking a human life or because she's a woman?

    If the latter, I don't see how gender is relevant to serving a sentence.
     
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  10. Vinayaka

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    Either or both.
     
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    I do not know what this has to do with Trump, but I am not against the death sentence.

    Just so you will know, my religion allows for either life in prison or the death penalty for murder, and if someone gets the death penalty Baha'u'llah said that a second penalty will not be imposed by God..

    In my opinion, there are many cases where a murderer should have been put to death instead of getting life in prison, and in these cases I hope God punishes them, and I believe He will, according to Baha'u'llah.

    Do you ever watch Investigation Discovery or Forensic Files? I do, these are the only programs I ever watch. ;)
    There are people in the world who are purely evil.
     
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    What about the barbaric murders they committed?
     
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    Why?
     
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    What about the many people on death row who were later exonerated? Death's pretty final, can't be undone if exculpatory evidence later comes to light.

    Another question. What makes it wrong for one man to kill another, but right for other men to then kill him? Isn't it the same offense?
     
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    In my opinion, this is the most solid reason to oppose the death penalty, along with the fact that it is such an exploitable sentence that can be abused to political or other ends. I believe it should be abolished primarily for these two reasons.

    I think if we can argue that the death penalty is a social mechanism of self-defense (I don't believe it is the best way for that, however), then we can say that it is not the same as killing someone as an attacker who does so to rob or otherwise violate the victim. Sometimes the reaction is far more justified than the initial action even if both are similar in magnitude.
     
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    Since you and @Trailblazer want to know, I'm opposed to it not because it could be conceived as immoral but because it's costly, inefficient, completely useless as a deterant, impossible to reverse in case of error and unecessary since life in prison without parole guaranty the safety of society just as well if not more since it offers a way out for people wrongfully condamned.
     
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    Dunno where that info came from.

    Last woman executed in US was
    Kelly Renee Gissendaner in 2015.

    Poor reporting here unless its Federal vs State executions.
     
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    I do not think anyone should ever get the death sentence unless the evidence clearly proves they are guilty and there is no doubt. When someone confesses to the murder we know they are guilty but they often do that to avoid the death sentence.
    It is not the same at all. One was a planned out murder for selfish purposes and the other was a carrying out justice.
     
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    Is it more costly than taking care of a prisoner for life?
    Why do you think it is useless as a deterrent?
     
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    It actually is. In the US the median cost for a death penalty case is of around 1.26 million while imprisonning someone for life as a median cost of $740 000.

    Because it has been demonstrated practically ad nauseam at this point to not be an effective deterrent when compared to life in prison.

    A Clear Scientific Consensus that the Death Penalty does NOT Deter – Amnesty International USA.
     
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