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False Victimhood

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by Cacotopia, May 13, 2019.

  1. Audie

    Audie Well-Known Member

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    Haha, no, I really dont think I will check
    that box!
     
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    I forgot about that cartoon. If they joined forces Mojo Jojo wouldn't stand a chance.
     
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    Audie Well-Known Member

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    You would find you cannot afford the emotional strain
    getting offended at everything.

    Not to get all heavy duty about it but if you
    knew what women have to live with you
    would wonder why we did not long ago
    rise up and you know, ohh..I guess that is
    why we dont. Women are not made with a
    mind to "destroy them all".

    ETA I left out "not", freudian maybe
     
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    Billy gets it;

     
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    I can barely handle the emotional strain of being offended by a few things.
     
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  6. Epic Beard Man

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    Well it depends. For example and I'll use the NBA basketball player Russell Westbrook as an example. If I was in the same arena watching Russell Westbrook play and I encountered the alleged exchange between a heckler and him (Westbrook) and I heard the alleged remark of "get on your knees like you used to," I may interject and say something (see the incident I'm referring to here:https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...mmunity/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.be4ba6110627). But it also depends as well. If someone says something blatantly racist I will most likely say something, but if the comment is vague and most likely the result of some sort of common heckling I'll stay in my lane.

    To answer this I'll use another scenario.Suppose a black guy and a white guy are at a restaurant and both having a good time and the white guy starts making racial jokes. Depending on how loud the joke is and the context of the joke I'll remain quiet. But if it gets out of hand I would kindly remind them to tone it down and that their joking is inappropriate given the setting. As I told another person here, just because you may have that one minority friend or even several friends that are okay with it, it does not mean everyone will be okay with it. I believe the best teacher of someone who isn't cognizant of their behavior is one who addresses the issue and makes it known to the person or persons. Remaining silent can also mean you condone the behavior.

    I have before. Again, I'm not some tough guy badgering people and threatening them with physical violence because after all I have a license and I like my freedom and my job. I also believe that people best learn by not being pelted physically. There is a way to do things.

    Depends on the environment but in most instances I'll kindly ask people to tone it down and be mindful of their surroundings. Ironically when there are a lot of blacks present nine times out of ten inappropriate jokes aren't about black people, it is usually about other ethnic groups. the way I look at it regardless whether if the joke that appears offensive to me is about black people or not, in a public setting if the joke is distasteful and inappropriate and loud enough and there is no other person interjecting I'll kindly remind the company. I think most people in my mother and grand-father's generation have done that to people who were "loud and obnoxious" cause you know, the whole "it takes a village" thing.

    Again, as I said it depends on context and how loud it is. I'm not going to trip on someone if they're making a humorous joke about grape soda or grape kool-aid or friend chicken in reference to black stereotypes. But if the likes of words like "chinkette" just flip it to reference black people or any other ethnic group that is loud, disruptive and distasteful then yes I'll say something. I don't care if the other party that is joking along is a minority the fact is everyone isn't cool with that kind of humor.

    If it's inappropriate yes I will step in regard;less if the party is joking with each other. this is how fights start and to prevent someone from getting their a*** kicked, a guy like me that just gives them a friendly reminder ought to be good enough. If you've ever been to a sporting event these things happen especially when alcohol is involved. I would hope a white person would intervene if two white guys were making inappropriate jokes about black people especially if the jokes were blatantly racist.

    Again, if the conversation is loud enough and if me and my company are aware of it and it continues and it is distasteful then yes I'll intervene. If I can't hear the conversation and I'm unaware then they can have at it.
     
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    You said:

    "I'm very aware of the past history of race in America. No need for a history lesson."

    Followed by:

    When I said "it doesn't seem that way" in reference to you saying you are aware of the pasty history of race in America I was referencing your defense in the fact that you perceive joking of this caliber acceptable because you have a wife of color who thereby is Asian. I, subsequent to that said regardless of her ethnicity which is rather irrelevant, all Asian outside of your marriage may not take kind to joking of that kind. If someone who is mindful of the racial history of the past in the U.S. then there is no further argument because we are in agreement that not everyone takes racial jokes like those from within your circle. If you being 20 years my senior cannot understand that despite you being older and ought to be much more wiser than me then it seems that you still have much to learn about being socially aware.

    I don't see the so-called "racebait" as I clearly said that it does not appear that you are aware of the history of race in the United States considering you continuing to argue a moot point of view. I think my saying that we all ought to be mindful of others when joking in public is universal. This not only applies to race but people of different religions, disabilities, etc. Would it be appropriate that I made all types of homophobic jokes to my friend who is gay in a public setting all because its cool with my friend? No. Because not all gays will take light to my humor whether it is light or dark, therefore because jokes are not always universally accepted in public, therefore I must be mindful of what is said in public because I cannot assume that it will be accepted by all. THAT WAS THE POINT!

    If you want to be a 57 year-old baby about the issue and ignore because you cannot debate facts then be my guest but I figured by you being older than me and me making this point you and I would be in agreement and that this matter would be over.
     
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    Seems just like another form of being a busybody just with a shiny veneer instead of the mother-in-law vibe.
     
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