Evolution is Anti-American

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Project Steve

Project Steve | NCSE

 

[fschmidt]

sigh

Makes me wish for a kind of all-encompassing stupidity-holocaust.

At least we agree on something. And let me assure you, this holocaust would wipe out both the Left and the Right.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Much of the country was settled by people fleeing that 'tolerance for other religions' to be free to practice their faith

That happened hundreds of years ago (it's pointless to assume the conditions then still exist today). And even still, those Puritans who came over here/were shipped over here were very intolerant themselves, not only England where their crimes include burning the Globe Theater on "moral" grounds, but also severe intolerance and brutality towards the natives here.

 

[Sapiens]

You're bedbug crazy if you think that there is honest analogy between Lemaitre and this laundry list of crazies and frauds. But if that is a list of people what you think you can respect, then you should add yourself to the signing, I'm sure that CMI can invent an appropriate sounding academic title and affiliation that will take me about a minute on google to expose.

 

[McBell]

obviously not all of them no!, here's just a couple

Dr Paul Ackerman, Psychologist Dr E. Theo Agard, Medical Physics Dr James Allan, Geneticist Dr Steve Austin, Geologist Dr S.E. Aw, Biochemist Dr Thomas Barnes, Physicist Dr Geoff Barnard, Immunologist Dr John Baumgardner, Electrical Engineering, Space Physicist, Geophysicist, expert in supercomputer modeling of plate tectonics Dr Jerry Bergman, Psychologist Dr Kimberly Berrine, Microbiology & Immunology Prof. Vladimir Betina, Microbiology, Biochemistry & Biology Dr Raymond G. Bohlin, Biologist Dr Andrew Bosanquet, Biology, Microbiology Edward A. Boudreaux, Theoretical Chemistry Dr David R. Boylan, Chemical Engineer Prof. Linn E. Carothers, Associate Professor of Statistics Dr Robert W. Carter, Zoology (Marine Biology And Genetics) Prof. Sung-Do Cha, Physics Dr Eugene F. Chaffin, Professor of Physics Dr Choong-Kuk Chang, Genetic Engineering Prof. Jeun-Sik Chang, Aeronautical Engineering Dr Donald Chittick, Physical Chemist Prof. Chung-Il Cho, Biology Education Dr John M. Cimbala, Mechanical Engineering Dr Harold Coffin, Palaeontologist Dr Bob Compton, DVM Dr Ken Cumming, Biologist Dr Jack W. Cuozzo, Aeronautics & Nuclear Physics Dr Malcolm Cutchins, Aerospace Engineering Dr Lionel Dahmer, Analytical Chemist Dr Raymond V. Damadian, M.D., Pioneer of magnetic resonance imaging Dr Chris Darnbrough, Biochemist Dr Nancy M. Darrall, Botany Dr Bryan Dawson, Mathematics Dr Douglas Dean, Biological Chemistry Prof. Stephen W. Deckard, Assistant Professor of Education Dr David A. DeWitt, Biology, Biochemistry, Neuroscience Dr Don DeYoung, Astronomy, atmospheric physics, M.Div Dr Robert H. Eckel, Medical Research Dr André Eggen, Geneticist Prof. Dennis L. Englin, Professor of Geophysics Prof. Danny Faulkner, Astronomy Prof. Carl B. Fliermans, Professor of Biology Prof. Dwain L. Ford, Organic Chemistry Prof. Robert H. Franks, Associate Professor of Biology Dr Alan Galbraith, Watershed Science Dr Paul Giem, Medical Research Dr Maciej Giertych, Geneticist Dr Duane Gish, Biochemist Dr Werner Gitt, Information Scientist Dr D.B. Gower, Biochemistry Dr Dianne Grocott, Psychiatrist Dr Stephen Grocott, Industrial Chemist Dr Donald Hamann, Food Scientist Dr Barry Harker, Philosopher Dr Charles W. Harrison, Applied Physicist, Electromagnetics Dr John Hartnett, Physicist And Cosmologist Dr Joe Havel, Botanist, Silviculturist, Ecophysiologist Dr George Hawke, Environmental Scientist Dr Margaret Helder, Science Editor, Botanist Dr Harold R. Henry, Engineer Dr Jonathan Henry, Astronomy Dr Joseph Henson, Entomologist Dr Robert A. Herrmann, Professor of Mathematics, US Naval Academy Dr Andrew Hodge, Head of the Cardiothoracic Surgical Service Dr Kelly Hollowell, Molecular And Cellular Pharmacologist Dr Ed Holroyd, III, Atmospheric Science Dr Bob Hosken, Biochemistry Dr George F. Howe, Botany Dr Neil Huber, Physical Anthropologist Dr Russell Humphreys, Physicist Dr James A. Huggins, Professor And Chair, Department of Biology Evan Jamieson, Hydrometallurgy George T. Javor, Biochemistry Dr Arthur Jones, Biology Dr Jonathan W. Jones, Plastic Surgeon Dr Raymond Jones, Agricultural Scientist Dr Felix Konotey-Ahulu, Physician, leading expert on sickle-cell anemia Prof. Leonid Korochkin, Molecular Biology Dr Valery Karpounin, Mathematical Sciences, Logics, Formal Logics Dr Dean Kenyon, Biologist Prof. Gi-Tai Kim, Biology Prof. Harriet Kim, Biochemistry Prof. Jong-Bai Kim, Biochemistry Prof. Jung-Han Kim, Biochemistry Prof. Jung-Wook Kim, Environmental Science Prof. Kyoung-Rai Kim, Analytical Chemistry Prof. Kyoung-Tai Kim, Genetic Engineering Prof. Young-Gil Kim, Materials Science Prof. Young In Kim, Engineering Dr John W. Klotz, Biologist Dr Vladimir F. Kondalenko, Cytology/Cell Pathology Dr Leonid Korochkin, M.D., Genetics, Molecular Biology, Neurobiology Dr John K.G. Kramer, Biochemistry Prof. Jin-Hyouk Kwon, Physics Prof. Myung-Sang Kwon, Immunology Dr John G. Leslie, biochemistry, molecular biology, medicine, biblical archaeology Prof. Lane P. Lester, Biologist, Genetics Dr Jason Lisle, Astrophysicist Dr Alan Love, Chemist Dr Ian Macreadie, molecular biologist And microbiologist: Dr John Marcus, Molecular Biologist Dr George Marshall, Eye Disease Researcher Dr Ralph Matthews, Radiation Chemist Dr John McEwan, Chemist Prof. Andy McIntosh, Combustion theory, aerodynamics Dr David Menton, Anatomist Dr Angela Meyer, Creationist Plant Physiologist Dr John Meyer, Physiologist Dr Albert Mills, Reproductive Physiologist, Embryologist Colin W. Mitchell, Geography Dr John N. Moore, Science Educator Dr John W. Moreland, Mechanical engineer And Dentist Dr Henry M. Morris, Hydrologist Dr John D. Morris, Geologist Dr Len Morris, Physiologist Dr Graeme Mortimer, Geologist Stanley A. Hee-Choon No, Nuclear Engineering Dr Eric Norman, Biomedical researcher Dr David Oderberg, Philosopher Prof. John Oller, Linguistics Prof. Chris D. Osborne, Assistant Professor of Biology Dr John Osgood, Medical Practitioner Dr Charles Pallaghy, Botanist Dr Gary E. Parker, Biologist, Cognate in Geology (Paleontology) Dr David Pennington, Plastic Surgeon Prof. Richard Porter Dr Georgia Purdom, Molecular Genetics Dr Albert E. Pye, invertebrate zoology, biotechnology, biological control (1945–2012) Dr John Rankin, Cosmologist Dr A.S. Reece, M.D. Prof. J. Rendle-Short, Pediatrics Dr Jung-Goo Roe, Biology Dr David Rosevear, Chemist Dr Ariel A. Roth, Biology Dr John Sanford, Geneticist Dr Jonathan D. Sarfati, Physical chemist / spectroscopist Dr Joachim Scheven Palaeontologist: Dr Ian Scott, Educator Dr Saami Shaibani, Forensic physicist Dr Young-Gi Shim, Chemistry Prof. Hyun-Kil Shin, Food Science Dr Mikhail Shulgin, Physics Dr Emil Silvestru, Geologist/karstologist Dr Roger Simpson, Engineer Dr Harold Slusher, Geophysicist Dr E. Norbert Smith, Zoologist Dr Andrew Snelling, Geologist Prof. Man-Suk Song, Computer Science Dr Timothy G. Standish, Biology Prof. James Stark, Assistant Professor of Science Education Prof. Brian Stone, Engineer Dr Esther Su, Biochemistry Dr Charles Taylor, Linguistics Dr Stephen Taylor, Electrical Engineering Dr Ker C. Thomson, Geophysics Dr Michael Todhunter, Forest Genetics Dr Lyudmila Tonkonog, Chemistry/Biochemistry Dr Royal Truman, Organic Chemist: Dr Larry Vardiman, Atmospheric Science Prof. Walter Veith, Zoologist Dr Joachim Vetter, Biologist Dr Tas Walker, Mechanical Engineer And Geologist Dr Jeremy Walter, Mechanical Engineer Dr Keith Wanser, Physicist Dr Noel Weeks, Ancient Historian (also has B.Sc. in Zoology) Dr A.J. Monty White, Chemistry/Gas Kinetics Dr John Whitmore, Geologist/Paleontologist Dr Carl Wieland, Medical doctor Dr Lara Wieland, Medical doctor Dr Clifford Wilson, Psycholinguist And archaeologist (1923–2012) Dr Kurt Wise, Palaeontologist Dr Bryant Wood, Creationist Archaeologist Prof. Seoung-Hoon Yang, Physics Dr Ick-Dong Yoo, Genetics Dr Sung-Hee Yoon, Biology Dr Patrick Young, Chemist And Materials Scientist Prof. Keun Bae Yu, Geography Dr Henry Zuill, Biology

Which one of the creationist websites did you copy/paste you list from?
You do know that non referenced copy/paste jobs are against forum rules, right?

 

[McBell]

Which one of the creationist websites did you copy/paste you list from?
You do know that non referenced copy/paste jobs are against forum rules, right?

I ask because I have found ten that have the exact same list in the exact same order.

 

[Shad]

the list of people who are skeptical of ghosts, but also championed among paranormal investigators, is 0

The fact that Lemaitre was on ordained priest who got his doctorate at a catholic university was held against him also, his first writings on the primeval atom were ignored for not being in what was considered a weighty journal..

Had he gone to an atheist institution, he might have been accepted more quickly a scientist and had a far more academically accomplished career, and maybe even been awarded a nobel prize -, for agreeing the universe is static!

There were secular and religious institutions in a free society. Nice try at a strawman

Which one of the creationist websites did you copy/paste you list from?
You do know that non referenced copy/paste jobs are against forum rules, right?

AIG aka Answer in Genesis. The list is old and a mockery of critical thinking. They started the list and other sites just copied it for those that rely on apologetics for their arguments

 

[Sapiens]

Much of the country was settled by people fleeing that 'tolerance for other religions' to be free to practice their faith

Actually much of the country was founded by people fleeing the wrath of others who could not stomach their (those who were forced to flee's) intolerance any further and threw them out (read a history of the Pilgrims, I know, one of my ancestors came over on the Fortune). These folks confused freedom to practice their religion with freedom to mistreat anyone who believed differently than they did.

 

[Jonathan Ainsley Bain]

That man in the video seems to be doing his best to undermine the message of the Bible...
Think about it.

 

[Skwim]

obviously not all of them no!, here's just a couple

Dr Paul Ackerman, Psychologist Dr E. Theo Agard, Medical Physics Dr James Allan, Geneticist Dr Steve Austin, Geologist Dr S.E. Aw, Biochemist Dr Thomas Barnes, Physicist Dr Geoff Barnard, Immunologist Dr John Baumgardner, Electrical Engineering, Space Physicist, Geophysicist, expert in supercomputer modeling of plate tectonics Dr Jerry Bergman, Psychologist Dr Kimberly Berrine, Microbiology & Immunology Prof. Vladimir Betina, Microbiology, Biochemistry & Biology Dr Raymond G. Bohlin, Biologist Dr Andrew Bosanquet, Biology, Microbiology Edward A. Boudreaux, Theoretical Chemistry Dr David R. Boylan, Chemical Engineer Prof. Linn E. Carothers, Associate Professor of Statistics Dr Robert W. Carter, Zoology (Marine Biology And Genetics) Prof. Sung-Do Cha, Physics Dr Eugene F. Chaffin, Professor of Physics Dr Choong-Kuk Chang, Genetic Engineering Prof. Jeun-Sik Chang, Aeronautical Engineering Dr Donald Chittick, Physical Chemist Prof. Chung-Il Cho, Biology Education Dr John M. Cimbala, Mechanical Engineering Dr Harold Coffin, Palaeontologist Dr Bob Compton, DVM Dr Ken Cumming, Biologist Dr Jack W. Cuozzo, Aeronautics & Nuclear Physics Dr Malcolm Cutchins, Aerospace Engineering Dr Lionel Dahmer, Analytical Chemist Dr Raymond V. Damadian, M.D., Pioneer of magnetic resonance imaging Dr Chris Darnbrough, Biochemist Dr Nancy M. Darrall, Botany Dr Bryan Dawson, Mathematics Dr Douglas Dean, Biological Chemistry Prof. Stephen W. Deckard, Assistant Professor of Education Dr David A. DeWitt, Biology, Biochemistry, Neuroscience Dr Don DeYoung, Astronomy, atmospheric physics, M.Div Dr Robert H. Eckel, Medical Research Dr André Eggen, Geneticist Prof. Dennis L. Englin, Professor of Geophysics Prof. Danny Faulkner, Astronomy Prof. Carl B. Fliermans, Professor of Biology Prof. Dwain L. Ford, Organic Chemistry Prof. Robert H. Franks, Associate Professor of Biology Dr Alan Galbraith, Watershed Science Dr Paul Giem, Medical Research Dr Maciej Giertych, Geneticist Dr Duane Gish, Biochemist Dr Werner Gitt, Information Scientist Dr D.B. Gower, Biochemistry Dr Dianne Grocott, Psychiatrist Dr Stephen Grocott, Industrial Chemist Dr Donald Hamann, Food Scientist Dr Barry Harker, Philosopher Dr Charles W. Harrison, Applied Physicist, Electromagnetics Dr John Hartnett, Physicist And Cosmologist Dr Joe Havel, Botanist, Silviculturist, Ecophysiologist Dr George Hawke, Environmental Scientist Dr Margaret Helder, Science Editor, Botanist Dr Harold R. Henry, Engineer Dr Jonathan Henry, Astronomy Dr Joseph Henson, Entomologist Dr Robert A. Herrmann, Professor of Mathematics, US Naval Academy Dr Andrew Hodge, Head of the Cardiothoracic Surgical Service Dr Kelly Hollowell, Molecular And Cellular Pharmacologist Dr Ed Holroyd, III, Atmospheric Science Dr Bob Hosken, Biochemistry Dr George F. Howe, Botany Dr Neil Huber, Physical Anthropologist Dr Russell Humphreys, Physicist Dr James A. Huggins, Professor And Chair, Department of Biology Evan Jamieson, Hydrometallurgy George T. Javor, Biochemistry Dr Arthur Jones, Biology Dr Jonathan W. Jones, Plastic Surgeon Dr Raymond Jones, Agricultural Scientist Dr Felix Konotey-Ahulu, Physician, leading expert on sickle-cell anemia Prof. Leonid Korochkin, Molecular Biology Dr Valery Karpounin, Mathematical Sciences, Logics, Formal Logics Dr Dean Kenyon, Biologist Prof. Gi-Tai Kim, Biology Prof. Harriet Kim, Biochemistry Prof. Jong-Bai Kim, Biochemistry Prof. Jung-Han Kim, Biochemistry Prof. Jung-Wook Kim, Environmental Science Prof. Kyoung-Rai Kim, Analytical Chemistry Prof. Kyoung-Tai Kim, Genetic Engineering Prof. Young-Gil Kim, Materials Science Prof. Young In Kim, Engineering Dr John W. Klotz, Biologist Dr Vladimir F. Kondalenko, Cytology/Cell Pathology Dr Leonid Korochkin, M.D., Genetics, Molecular Biology, Neurobiology Dr John K.G. Kramer, Biochemistry Prof. Jin-Hyouk Kwon, Physics Prof. Myung-Sang Kwon, Immunology Dr John G. Leslie, biochemistry, molecular biology, medicine, biblical archaeology Prof. Lane P. Lester, Biologist, Genetics Dr Jason Lisle, Astrophysicist Dr Alan Love, Chemist Dr Ian Macreadie, molecular biologist And microbiologist: Dr John Marcus, Molecular Biologist Dr George Marshall, Eye Disease Researcher Dr Ralph Matthews, Radiation Chemist Dr John McEwan, Chemist Prof. Andy McIntosh, Combustion theory, aerodynamics Dr David Menton, Anatomist Dr Angela Meyer, Creationist Plant Physiologist Dr John Meyer, Physiologist Dr Albert Mills, Reproductive Physiologist, Embryologist Colin W. Mitchell, Geography Dr John N. Moore, Science Educator Dr John W. Moreland, Mechanical engineer And Dentist Dr Henry M. Morris, Hydrologist Dr John D. Morris, Geologist Dr Len Morris, Physiologist Dr Graeme Mortimer, Geologist Stanley A. Hee-Choon No, Nuclear Engineering Dr Eric Norman, Biomedical researcher Dr David Oderberg, Philosopher Prof. John Oller, Linguistics Prof. Chris D. Osborne, Assistant Professor of Biology Dr John Osgood, Medical Practitioner Dr Charles Pallaghy, Botanist Dr Gary E. Parker, Biologist, Cognate in Geology (Paleontology) Dr David Pennington, Plastic Surgeon Prof. Richard Porter Dr Georgia Purdom, Molecular Genetics Dr Albert E. Pye, invertebrate zoology, biotechnology, biological control (1945–2012) Dr John Rankin, Cosmologist Dr A.S. Reece, M.D. Prof. J. Rendle-Short, Pediatrics Dr Jung-Goo Roe, Biology Dr David Rosevear, Chemist Dr Ariel A. Roth, Biology Dr John Sanford, Geneticist Dr Jonathan D. Sarfati, Physical chemist / spectroscopist Dr Joachim Scheven Palaeontologist: Dr Ian Scott, Educator Dr Saami Shaibani, Forensic physicist Dr Young-Gi Shim, Chemistry Prof. Hyun-Kil Shin, Food Science Dr Mikhail Shulgin, Physics Dr Emil Silvestru, Geologist/karstologist Dr Roger Simpson, Engineer Dr Harold Slusher, Geophysicist Dr E. Norbert Smith, Zoologist Dr Andrew Snelling, Geologist Prof. Man-Suk Song, Computer Science Dr Timothy G. Standish, Biology Prof. James Stark, Assistant Professor of Science Education Prof. Brian Stone, Engineer Dr Esther Su, Biochemistry Dr Charles Taylor, Linguistics Dr Stephen Taylor, Electrical Engineering Dr Ker C. Thomson, Geophysics Dr Michael Todhunter, Forest Genetics Dr Lyudmila Tonkonog, Chemistry/Biochemistry Dr Royal Truman, Organic Chemist: Dr Larry Vardiman, Atmospheric Science Prof. Walter Veith, Zoologist Dr Joachim Vetter, Biologist Dr Tas Walker, Mechanical Engineer And Geologist Dr Jeremy Walter, Mechanical Engineer Dr Keith Wanser, Physicist Dr Noel Weeks, Ancient Historian (also has B.Sc. in Zoology) Dr A.J. Monty White, Chemistry/Gas Kinetics Dr John Whitmore, Geologist/Paleontologist Dr Carl Wieland, Medical doctor Dr Lara Wieland, Medical doctor Dr Clifford Wilson, Psycholinguist And archaeologist (1923–2012) Dr Kurt Wise, Palaeontologist Dr Bryant Wood, Creationist Archaeologist Prof. Seoung-Hoon Yang, Physics Dr Ick-Dong Yoo, Genetics Dr Sung-Hee Yoon, Biology Dr Patrick Young, Chemist And Materials Scientist Prof. Keun Bae Yu, Geography Dr Henry Zuill, Biology

This rather odd list is quite dated. If you're going to cite evidence I suggest you get your facts together. The following have all been dropped from your list.

Dr. Thomas Barnes, Physicist
Dr Jack W. Cuozzo, Dentist
Dr. Paul Giem, Medical Research
Dr. Duane Gish, Biochemist
Dr. Dianne Grocott, Psychiatrist
Dr. Andrew Hodge, Head of the Cardiothoracic Surgical Service
Dr. Jonathan W. Jones, Plastic Surgeon
Dr. Albert Mills, Reproductive Physiologist, Embryologist
Dr. John W. Moreland, Mechanical Engineer and Dentist
Dr. Henry M. Morris, Hydrologist
Dr. John Osgood, Medical Practitioner
Dr. David Pennington, Plastic Surgeon
Prof. Richard Porter—World authority on the human spine
Dr. John Rankin, Cosmologist
Dr. A.S. Reece, M.D.
Prof. J. Rendle-Short, Pediatrics
Dr. Harold Slusher, Geophysicist
Dr. Charles Taylor, Linguist
Dr. Stephen Taylor, Electrical Engineering
Dr. Lara Wieland, MD
Dr. Clifford Wilson, Psycholinguist and Archaeologist
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And including statisticians, mathematicians, M.D.s, linguists, dentists, philosophers, doctors of veterinary medicine, and plastic surgeons as "accomplished scientists" is simply asinine, Kind of speaks to the veracity of the creationist movement. On the other hand there's the delightful Project Steve:

"Project Steve is a tongue-in-cheek parody created by the National Center for Science Education, intended to place the "scientific debate" over evolution into proportion. It is in response to various lists, put out by the likes of the Discovery Institute, of scientists who supposedly reject evolution
Stephen was chosen in honour of Stephen Jay Gould, who died about a year before the list began. Some slight variations of that name are also included, such as Steven, Steve, Stefan, or Stephanie, or the same name in languages other than English, including three Etiennes, three Estebans, one Istvan, and one Tapani, which is the Finnish equivalent.

The list was invented entirely for the lulz and was not intended to be an argumentum ad populum, or any other argumentum. As of March 31, 2014, The Steve-o-meter numbers 1330 scientists on its list. It has been noted that the Steve list has proportionately more biologists (about two thirds are qualified biologists) than the creationists' list. So there.

The Discovery Institute's A Scientific Dissent from Darwinism had, by comparison, 12 signatories whose names would have qualified them for the Steve list per 2012. The twelve constitute a motley crew that contains at least some non-scientists (Meyer, Cheesman), certified crackpots (Gift), and one single biologist, C. Steven Murphree, who has — to really add insult to injury — later repudiated his involvement with the creationist movement and signed Project Steve instead.
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By the way, when posting the work of others you're required to cite your source. It's one of RF's rules​

 

[Monk Of Reason]

the list of people who are skeptical of ghosts, but also championed among paranormal investigators, is 0

The fact that Lemaitre was on ordained priest who got his doctorate at a catholic university was held against him also, his first writings on the primeval atom were ignored for not being in what was considered a weighty journal..

Had he gone to an atheist institution, he might have been accepted more quickly a scientist and had a far more academically accomplished career, and maybe even been awarded a nobel prize -, for agreeing the universe is static!

Actually there are a few. Me being one.

But the point is not that it was a religious institution (as there are no atheist institutions that I am aware of) but the fact it is UNACCREDITED. Which means either 1) they didn't apply for accreditation or 2) they didn't get it. Which basically means they could teach whatever they wanted as fact in that institution without anyone calling them on it.

I could, for example, create an institution if I had plenty of money to do so and train people all the way to the PhD level in fantasy biology. I could teach them the anatomy of Unicorns and the rate of fairy dust that is required per ounce of weight to propel faeries or humans in that matter. And it would still be an institution. I could teach a history class based off of the Inglorious ******** movie.

But if you have an accredited institution that means that people agree you are not full of crap and that what you teach is of viable substance. It has nothing to do with the religious nature of the institution as we have plenty of accredited religious Universities.

 

[metis]

obviously not all of them no!, here's just a couple

Dr Paul Ackerman, Psychologist Dr E. Theo Agard, Medical Physics Dr James Allan, Geneticist Dr Steve Austin, Geologist Dr S.E. Aw, Biochemist Dr Thomas Barnes, Physicist Dr Geoff Barnard, Immunologist Dr John Baumgardner, Electrical Engineering, Space Physicist, Geophysicist, expert in supercomputer modeling of plate tectonics Dr Jerry Bergman, Psychologist Dr Kimberly Berrine, Microbiology & Immunology Prof. Vladimir Betina, Microbiology, Biochemistry & Biology Dr Raymond G. Bohlin, Biologist Dr Andrew Bosanquet, Biology, Microbiology Edward A. Boudreaux, Theoretical Chemistry Dr David R. Boylan, Chemical Engineer Prof. Linn E. Carothers, Associate Professor of Statistics Dr Robert W. Carter, Zoology (Marine Biology And Genetics) Prof. Sung-Do Cha, Physics Dr Eugene F. Chaffin, Professor of Physics Dr Choong-Kuk Chang, Genetic Engineering Prof. Jeun-Sik Chang, Aeronautical Engineering Dr Donald Chittick, Physical Chemist Prof. Chung-Il Cho, Biology Education Dr John M. Cimbala, Mechanical Engineering Dr Harold Coffin, Palaeontologist Dr Bob Compton, DVM Dr Ken Cumming, Biologist Dr Jack W. Cuozzo, Aeronautics & Nuclear Physics Dr Malcolm Cutchins, Aerospace Engineering Dr Lionel Dahmer, Analytical Chemist Dr Raymond V. Damadian, M.D., Pioneer of magnetic resonance imaging Dr Chris Darnbrough, Biochemist Dr Nancy M. Darrall, Botany Dr Bryan Dawson, Mathematics Dr Douglas Dean, Biological Chemistry Prof. Stephen W. Deckard, Assistant Professor of Education Dr David A. DeWitt, Biology, Biochemistry, Neuroscience Dr Don DeYoung, Astronomy, atmospheric physics, M.Div Dr Robert H. Eckel, Medical Research Dr André Eggen, Geneticist Prof. Dennis L. Englin, Professor of Geophysics Prof. Danny Faulkner, Astronomy Prof. Carl B. Fliermans, Professor of Biology Prof. Dwain L. Ford, Organic Chemistry Prof. Robert H. Franks, Associate Professor of Biology Dr Alan Galbraith, Watershed Science Dr Paul Giem, Medical Research Dr Maciej Giertych, Geneticist Dr Duane Gish, Biochemist Dr Werner Gitt, Information Scientist Dr D.B. Gower, Biochemistry Dr Dianne Grocott, Psychiatrist Dr Stephen Grocott, Industrial Chemist Dr Donald Hamann, Food Scientist Dr Barry Harker, Philosopher Dr Charles W. Harrison, Applied Physicist, Electromagnetics Dr John Hartnett, Physicist And Cosmologist Dr Joe Havel, Botanist, Silviculturist, Ecophysiologist Dr George Hawke, Environmental Scientist Dr Margaret Helder, Science Editor, Botanist Dr Harold R. Henry, Engineer Dr Jonathan Henry, Astronomy Dr Joseph Henson, Entomologist Dr Robert A. Herrmann, Professor of Mathematics, US Naval Academy Dr Andrew Hodge, Head of the Cardiothoracic Surgical Service Dr Kelly Hollowell, Molecular And Cellular Pharmacologist Dr Ed Holroyd, III, Atmospheric Science Dr Bob Hosken, Biochemistry Dr George F. Howe, Botany Dr Neil Huber, Physical Anthropologist Dr Russell Humphreys, Physicist Dr James A. Huggins, Professor And Chair, Department of Biology Evan Jamieson, Hydrometallurgy George T. Javor, Biochemistry Dr Arthur Jones, Biology Dr Jonathan W. Jones, Plastic Surgeon Dr Raymond Jones, Agricultural Scientist Dr Felix Konotey-Ahulu, Physician, leading expert on sickle-cell anemia Prof. Leonid Korochkin, Molecular Biology Dr Valery Karpounin, Mathematical Sciences, Logics, Formal Logics Dr Dean Kenyon, Biologist Prof. Gi-Tai Kim, Biology Prof. Harriet Kim, Biochemistry Prof. Jong-Bai Kim, Biochemistry Prof. Jung-Han Kim, Biochemistry Prof. Jung-Wook Kim, Environmental Science Prof. Kyoung-Rai Kim, Analytical Chemistry Prof. Kyoung-Tai Kim, Genetic Engineering Prof. Young-Gil Kim, Materials Science Prof. Young In Kim, Engineering Dr John W. Klotz, Biologist Dr Vladimir F. Kondalenko, Cytology/Cell Pathology Dr Leonid Korochkin, M.D., Genetics, Molecular Biology, Neurobiology Dr John K.G. Kramer, Biochemistry Prof. Jin-Hyouk Kwon, Physics Prof. Myung-Sang Kwon, Immunology Dr John G. Leslie, biochemistry, molecular biology, medicine, biblical archaeology Prof. Lane P. Lester, Biologist, Genetics Dr Jason Lisle, Astrophysicist Dr Alan Love, Chemist Dr Ian Macreadie, molecular biologist And microbiologist: Dr John Marcus, Molecular Biologist Dr George Marshall, Eye Disease Researcher Dr Ralph Matthews, Radiation Chemist Dr John McEwan, Chemist Prof. Andy McIntosh, Combustion theory, aerodynamics Dr David Menton, Anatomist Dr Angela Meyer, Creationist Plant Physiologist Dr John Meyer, Physiologist Dr Albert Mills, Reproductive Physiologist, Embryologist Colin W. Mitchell, Geography Dr John N. Moore, Science Educator Dr John W. Moreland, Mechanical engineer And Dentist Dr Henry M. Morris, Hydrologist Dr John D. Morris, Geologist Dr Len Morris, Physiologist Dr Graeme Mortimer, Geologist Stanley A. Hee-Choon No, Nuclear Engineering Dr Eric Norman, Biomedical researcher Dr David Oderberg, Philosopher Prof. John Oller, Linguistics Prof. Chris D. Osborne, Assistant Professor of Biology Dr John Osgood, Medical Practitioner Dr Charles Pallaghy, Botanist Dr Gary E. Parker, Biologist, Cognate in Geology (Paleontology) Dr David Pennington, Plastic Surgeon Prof. Richard Porter Dr Georgia Purdom, Molecular Genetics Dr Albert E. Pye, invertebrate zoology, biotechnology, biological control (1945–2012) Dr John Rankin, Cosmologist Dr A.S. Reece, M.D. Prof. J. Rendle-Short, Pediatrics Dr Jung-Goo Roe, Biology Dr David Rosevear, Chemist Dr Ariel A. Roth, Biology Dr John Sanford, Geneticist Dr Jonathan D. Sarfati, Physical chemist / spectroscopist Dr Joachim Scheven Palaeontologist: Dr Ian Scott, Educator Dr Saami Shaibani, Forensic physicist Dr Young-Gi Shim, Chemistry Prof. Hyun-Kil Shin, Food Science Dr Mikhail Shulgin, Physics Dr Emil Silvestru, Geologist/karstologist Dr Roger Simpson, Engineer Dr Harold Slusher, Geophysicist Dr E. Norbert Smith, Zoologist Dr Andrew Snelling, Geologist Prof. Man-Suk Song, Computer Science Dr Timothy G. Standish, Biology Prof. James Stark, Assistant Professor of Science Education Prof. Brian Stone, Engineer Dr Esther Su, Biochemistry Dr Charles Taylor, Linguistics Dr Stephen Taylor, Electrical Engineering Dr Ker C. Thomson, Geophysics Dr Michael Todhunter, Forest Genetics Dr Lyudmila Tonkonog, Chemistry/Biochemistry Dr Royal Truman, Organic Chemist: Dr Larry Vardiman, Atmospheric Science Prof. Walter Veith, Zoologist Dr Joachim Vetter, Biologist Dr Tas Walker, Mechanical Engineer And Geologist Dr Jeremy Walter, Mechanical Engineer Dr Keith Wanser, Physicist Dr Noel Weeks, Ancient Historian (also has B.Sc. in Zoology) Dr A.J. Monty White, Chemistry/Gas Kinetics Dr John Whitmore, Geologist/Paleontologist Dr Carl Wieland, Medical doctor Dr Lara Wieland, Medical doctor Dr Clifford Wilson, Psycholinguist And archaeologist (1923–2012) Dr Kurt Wise, Palaeontologist Dr Bryant Wood, Creationist Archaeologist Prof. Seoung-Hoon Yang, Physics Dr Ick-Dong Yoo, Genetics Dr Sung-Hee Yoon, Biology Dr Patrick Young, Chemist And Materials Scientist Prof. Keun Bae Yu, Geography Dr Henry Zuill, Biology

At another religious website that I cannot mention, one of the posters noticed the name of one of the scientists on a list similar to the above, and he knew something was wrong because the scientist was not anti-evolution but merely questioned one particular hypothesis (I don't recall which). So he checked several of the other names on the list and found much the same.

Therefore, be wary of lists like this because the scientists named may not be anti-evolution but merely questioning an aspect or two.

 

[Valjean]

Loyalty to country is un Christian. Patriotism is heresy.
Christ demands unity. Christ recognises neither Jew nor gentile, Greek nor Roman -- in Christianity all men are brothers.

 

[LuisDantas]

American's pesky habit of free individual thought, freedom of religion, freedom of expression, has served it quite well, compared with those who accepted institutionalized, intellectual, academic science as gospel that must be forced on the people. With these values it lead the world producing most of the technology that makes modern life possible, including what you're doing right now

There is freedom of religion and expression, and then there is the decision of abusing religion in order to express degenerate ideas that pander to obscurantism and superstition.

The former may be used to open the way to the later, and we should always be on the guard in order to defend ourselves from that sad possibility.

 

[oldbadger]

sigh

Makes me wish for a kind of all-encompassing stupidity-holocaust.

Gawd...... sh-t!
We'd all have to hide somewhere!

 

[oldbadger]

Can you produce a list of these?

Of course he can't ...
Neitzche has called for a stupidity holocaust and they've all gone into hiding.
I'm not taking any chances........ I think I'll hide as well!

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

There was a time in the UK. Where only Anglicans Jews and later Quakrers could hold their own religious services. Since then just abou any belief can claim to be a religion.
Many of those early setlers to the Americas formed individual colonies, where other religions than their own, were suppressed.
it seems some of the more primative ones succeeded beyond their wildest dreams, and have become father to all this antievolution nonsense