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Evidence of Homo Sapiens on earth
- Thread starter Ted Evans
- Start date
Super Universe
Defender of God
What page of the bible says the earth is 10,000 to 6,000 years old?
Yep, and all scientists agree on every theory, right?
“Most scientists currently recognize some 15 to 20 different species of early humans. Scientists do not all agree, however, about how these species are related or which ones simply died out. Many early human species -- certainly the majority of them – left no living descendants. Scientists also debate over how to identify and classify particular species of early humans, and about what factors influenced the evolution and extinction of each species."
DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
Let's see your links to all of this intelligence from 200,000 years ago.
There is not a "page" that I am aware of that makes that claim. The figure is derived from the genealogy given in Genesis. Then reversed engineered back to the beginning. Something on the order of science reverse engineering back to the beginning of the universe.
DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
Wrong
View attachment 18557
01. Theopetra caves Stone Wall - Approx: 21,000 BC
02. Gobekli Tepe - Approx: 10,000 BC
They find new structures every so often there is no reason that we may not find something even earlier.
Where are the documents? Oh, there aren't any, got ya.
Do you wish to discuss your thread topic that is talking about when modern humans emerged and what is the documented evidence of their culture? I have provided the documentation. Why are you now getting into other hominid species that existed before and their fossil record? Please ask this in a separate thread and I will document the evidence showing where there is consensus and where there is dispute. For example there is dispute about whether Neanderthals had language or not, but that is not relevant to your OP question is it?
DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
There is plenty of evidence for the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ. You just choose to ignore it. That's on you.
DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
No, it isn't. He specifically asked about Homo sapiens. So start another thread or get in the game.
Yes. Only modern humans are Homo sapiens. All other species referred to in the he quoted in the article are not.
DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
So spit it out. Whatcha got?
Exactly. The question is one of classification. Do we consider two closely related fossils to be the same species or not? It isn't always clear. The 'splitters' will tend to say they are different species and the 'lumpers' will tend to say they are the same. And, depending on the classification, which are related and which died out will change. But this is an aspect of evolution: because the change between species is gradual, where to draw the line between species becomes a matter of interpretation.
For example, do we classify the Neanderthals are the same species as ourselves, or as different species? Since there is an overlap in time between modern humans and Neanderthals, this becomes a question of whether the two populations could and did interbreed. That is something that is MUCH harder to determine from the fossil record.
This is NOT to say, though, that the basics are not known. We know the progression of tool usage. We know that the early hominids were NOT the same as modern humans.
So, when *you* ask about humans, do you want to talk about Australopithcines also? If so, the 2-7 million year figure is correct. If you want to limit to anatomically modern humans, then 200,000 years is correct. In any case, humans existed long before the first buildings and we *do* have extensive evidence of their tools, musical instruments, decorations, art, etc.
In which case, his 2-7 million year figure is incorrect. For Homo sapiens, the correct figure is 200,000 years.
In these things, clarity is required.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
We had crude technology and tools then, and had this intelligence even before we came around as our own species, homo sapiens. We slowly developed, and then art definitely became a thing for our species about 40,000 years ago, even before agriculture did about 10,000 years ago.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Leave it to God to go and kill the smart ones.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It's called peer review.
Ponder This
Well-Known Member
Hold on. Are we talking taxonomic speciation (as in cannot interbreed) or are we talking subspecies (for example, geographically isolated races)?
There is some Neanderthal genetic material in people living today even though interbreeding with them is not thought to have occurred at an appreciable level... Does this fall under the part scientists do not "agree" about?It could be a problem if every new skeleton discovered becomes it's own species.
DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
The truth is, as Ted has shown you, is that scientists aren't sure and do not agree on the dates. You've done some cherry picking just as Ted has also shown you.
DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
Hmm, that sounds like eyewitness testimony. How old are you?