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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by WhoIsBeast 750, Feb 25, 2021.

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  1. WhoIsBeast 750

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    please comment

    in my opinion, the interpretation of creation is exactly 6,000 years of the creation of prophecy

    and specifically Eva and Adam mean this

    The Tree of Knowledge (the tree represents a book)

    and Eve represents life (or also a woman which is also interpreted as a church)

    and Adam means man

    could it be said that the church deceived man and changed the word?

    please note it's not an insult only discussion

    scripture is like a parable itself and there are various meanings as water are people nations and races and languages

    just like arrows they are blasphemous

    in the book of Daniel it is written that they have learned to graft trees

    Daniel 4:11 He cried out with a loud voice, and said, Jump down the tree. Cut his branches! Tear off his leaves! Scatter its fruits! Let the beast that was under him run away, and the birds of his branches.

    and he cried mightily, and commanded this, destroy the book, cut off his verses and tear off his words, and scatter his word until the beast that was in it escapes, and the birds of his
    words

    I know many will condemn this but try to think about it a bit
     
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    Ok, technically, I clicked on this because I thought you were talking about the characters from Metal Gear Solid franchise, as Eva is a character from that, while Eve is from the bible.

    The most likely historical context for a book that was likely written during the Babylonian Exile is that it is a parody of other Mesopotamian creation myths.
     
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    Does it matter whether your interpretation is right or wrong?

    And, if it does matter whether you are right or wrong how are you going to find out?
     
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  4. WhoIsBeast 750

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    this is a good question simply by symbolism
    even the apocrypha hide truths there if the head is written about the head symbolized by John (Isaiah 9:14 The old man and the noble are the head, and the prophet teaching deception is the tail)
    he swept a third of the angel with his tail (that is, the false prophet took a third of the churches with him)
    So is it possible that if they said and put a crown on his head?
    in fact, these verses support what is written in Islam that someone else was crucified
    and even looked like him Jesus
    so nothing far from the truth
     
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    Hmmm... If it's just a parable, what about Joseph's lineage mentioned in mathew and luke going all the way back to Adam? That seems rather literal to me, like he'd be an actual historical person, no?
     
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    You do have your view, but how do we know if your view is correct or false?
    Evidently, by using the same documents you are looking at.

    When we start from the Genesis account, and read the Bible from there, right through to the last book in the Tanakh, we see a chronology written on generations of people writen as history.
    So if anyone makes the claim that Adam and Eve were not real, then they also must in all honesty, dismiss all the patriarchs as allegory - Noah, Abraham, Moses, etc.
    So the question becomes, is that our claim - that every character named in the Bible is allegory?

    Would you like me to give a few passages that connect all the characters traced genealogically to Adam? Please let me know if you do.

    Now when we reach Jacob, Judah, David, and all the kings who ruled Jerusalem - most of whom have been confirmed as real historical characters, we have another question to ask... Are we going to dismiss all archaeological evidence as allegorical?

    I think those are two big mountains, no claim of allegorical Adam and Eve can surmount.
    I haven't included the Greek scriptures (so called NT), which carries on from the Tanakh, and which references the chronology in the Tanakh.
     
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    It can get sticky trying to separate fact from symbol....but God will never leave his own in the dark. These will have no doubts about what is symbolic and what is literal and even what represents both.

    From my own religious perspective I see Adam and Eve as real people.....why? Because their actions have affected all of their offspring...right down to the present moment. If God is the Creator, and if all his creation is perfect (or "very good" in his own estimations) then there would have been no defects in anything. Perfection is seen in creation down to the most microscopic creatures.

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    How intricate are they, and yet they are not visible to the naked eye....and look at these last two....who said God doesn't have a sense of humor? :p

    Creation itself testifies to the amazing qualities of our Creator.

    Humankind were the only earthly creatures 'made in God's image and likeness'.....but why? Why were we created here on earth? Was it just a training ground for heaven...? Or was there a more intelligent purpose for us here?

    Please read the Genesis account and tell me what assignment humans were given....I will be interested in your reply. The assignment they received will tell you whether the existence of these two was symbolic or literal.
     
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    Animals act by instinct. As the animals evolved into humans, the ability to reason was developed. With this development, humans developed the sense of right and wrong. The "tree of knowledge"/apple is symbolism for this evolutionary step.

    When the Bible was written, people were not ready to accept the science of evolution because the basis for science had not be developed. So the truth was encoded in a story which people could understand.

    Also included was a teaching of morality with strong messages of reward for good behavior and horrible punishment for bad behavior part of the picture. People were not ready to act in positive ways without that reward/punishment conditioning.
     
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    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Not a parable, it is a myth.
     
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    Matthew 1: 1 The deed of the family of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
    Jesus
    God saves
    Christ
    anointed
    Abraham
    father of many nations


    God saves the anointed father of many nations

    first
     
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    Science human life destruction lived before dinosaur life.

    God he says claiming man self as the alien machine caused giant life by the atmospheric fall.

    Tells this story after the fact hearing speaking voiced.

    How man science began its new theorising after ice age. After the fact science thesis.

    Do information is behind us

    We live safe. Telling stories.

    Reading from a book is only reading stories.

    Science by fact thought design just thinking. Builds design. Not active. Reacts design. New reaction.

    Which is not changing any status.

    Then the story written as two books says why human life got attacked sacrificed by the spirit of God.

    Spirit in science the heavens.

    Man theist designer science says O God earth already owned nature garden.

    Humans equal existed.

    Man however separated himself from woman as. Theist.

    Wrong man self he says satanic theory. Listening and detailing Satan's themes.

    Beginning of heavens when only space existed.
    Burning gases from volcano. Hell.

    How God earth created heavens he says in theory.

    Immaculate and sacrificed light balanced supported my holy life

    God theism said don't listen to satanic hell thesis man.

    But he did and his mother space womb even balanced life got evicted out of living in nature garden.

    DNA genesis of brother to brother got murdered in the nuclear reaction.

    First nuclear wound. Speared in side ribs. Notification.

    Thesis. I caused it in man science never give God a name again.

    No man is God thesis.

    If woman is church then church owning science false mother thesis EVE. Our mother owned no name. She was just. Human. All humans are not named first.

    Church mother the mother of science destruction.
     
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    why don't you write it in rational language but by skipping according to a certain number as in the bible? are you so afraid to reveal the truth?
     
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    Adam and Eve were literally the father and mother of the human race, according to the Bible. Adam is in the genealogy of Jesus.
     
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    Father said...
    he is spiritual man.

    Father just a baby life creator as man use as in descriptions. Father ....
    Does not exist until sex a baby born to own the title. A father.

    Reference false father word usage. Blame the father when science to destroy was his brother. Rational advice.

    Father mother two babies a holy human family. Always was.

    First science brother adult. Man. Male. Human. Invented the state science. Statement. A non sexual man.

    First science man not a sexual father.

    Was a brother.

    Memory holy father holy mother.

    Brother to Brother lies the scientist.

    Holy brother believes in holy parents and holy sister his equal. The holy life baby.

    Brother was irradiated stabbed in nuclear in his side. Said so. Took his mind away from equality side by side status female human life.

    His confession.

    Jesus attacked in side status in reason his father the designer scientist in DNA home land statement.

    The quote. Hence Jesus❤️ was a real baby of a real man father.
    Original scientist not a father just as it said.

    Pope side lung damaged. Related science coded history thought only by man as. Scientist. He is sciences creator

    A crime A return to science of crime.

    False father advice.

    Basic statement a self confession.

    Choice.

    Who do you believe. Self or holy Family?

    Science man builds his God mass machine.

    UFO began just as ejected radiation metal mass. Never gods earth machine

    Why it was taught. It's metal destroys gods science.

    Matter of fact.
     
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    Hello. I hope you don't mind, but it's important to write coherently. You sound upset and excited, you ask good questions, so I encourage you to calm down and speak in simple, connected, logical phrases. Religion can be upsettimg to many, so try not to get out of joint when expressing yourself.
     
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    The church became living example life sacrificed by God. The earth heart core UFO effect.

    Theirs a personal DNA one of attack after the Jewish Christian movement tried to ban science satanism. The law in science to consume or eat.

    The argument it happened to everyone real.

    Their organisation science status...no satanism as one organised aware status.

    Satanists most powerful elite still used Jeru Salem temple. Rome bombarded it from Port attack to stop its use

    Two brothers in science. One who destroys. One who tried by law agreement the Christian movement to stop life attack.

    To let it heal ,2012 agreement.

    No God other than creator of cooling evolution. Movement of spirit as G O D evaluation O cooling. Symbolic name only.

    Satanist elite group were sought for jailing. Brothers history. Many took their riches and hid underground. Reinfiltrated back into community a long time afterwards.

    Satanic brothers elite took back social control already historic lived.

    Removed the promise to heal the sacrifice by abiding God stone seal laws.

    Plainly obvious.

    Always prayed to be forgiven as high priest was the scientist knew he was wrong why he built church for sound therapy healing.

    Three daily ritual to cleanse human water body by holy water it's teaching.

    Second Jesus UFO released irradiation shroud event took the human psyche into its dark ages. By conditions radiated disturbed chemical brain.

    Humans possessed by morality became immoral as mind was imbalanced.

    Historic event.

    Bahai said as star watchers the cosmos healed God...from the womb.

    Why records were kept as proof against satanic science argument.

    God is not man.

    Man mainly holy water using bio mineral chemicals not nuclear.

    Our dusts minerals holy.

    Nuclear dust satanic.
     
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    first is the word then is the meaning
    and the last is the sentence that arises from the first verse of the generation


    God saves the anointed father of many nations


    I know it doesn't smell good to you: D and that's why you'll be twitching: D but it doesn't matter
     
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    No argument.

    A human man brothers as men agreed on science.

    He had everything he needed. As a human. What he did not have...science.

    What he never owned powers of God.
    Basic human teaching versus men who coerce using descriptive stories.

    Nature the garden existed before his human life.

    Science statement.

    The garden does not evict life nature...natural supports human life.

    Non reactive

    Garden body bio oxygen regeneration.

    Satanists the scientist our destroyer by his want. Basic human advice that owns no argument.

    Tries to teach that an alien in a UFO out of space mass created life by body comparison. Body type to human body type.

    Nature garden exists first. No argument. Yet he does argue. Nature garden is not any alien.

    Then we ask him where do your fake thoughts come from.

    Off the ground he said what I SEE.

    Which is not spatial UFO radiation mass as first spiritual human observation of a liar.

    One of his lies.

    He said I will give crystal mass being highest form in God earth to the dust of stone. Meaning convert it.

    A recorded feedback alien advice.

    And he did. A lot of Earth's crystal God mass left destroyed converted in Mayan UFO event. Left in a voided vacuum spatial removal event.

    Volcano gods hell is not original sin. As earth. The products he uses to build fake machines.

    Space owned consuming or consumption of mass. Volcanic mass is a melt and cools. Gods hell not original sin. Another lie.

    So he lied about original sin.. always lied.

    To get a machine he melts the mineral and then recools it.

    Machine not conscious. Ended as an idol idle. Not God O earth a reactive body. Another lie copying God.

    Brother conscious used design control against us. Claiming God is conscious God did it.

    Earth is a stable form of fusion. Deceased entombed spirit.

    Is not the constant sacrifice immaculate cold into alight burning gas kept cooled by womb vacuum. Heavens. Just as taught. Not the same one O God energy origins. A planet.

    K was old constant symbol. Used by a human scientist so it does not exist

    Brother spiritual said C is the constant 100 value life span. Life owns the presence constant of light. He NEVER preached we are the constant of light he said the son a spirit body of God is the constant of light.

    Symbolic.

    Sun burnt reignited the immaculate
    Sun.
    Son.

    Meant movement of a gas spirit cooling evolving in space is O circular given a descriptive reference G spiral into O. All first science thoughts a symbolic expression only.

    DD he said described what science did to the body constant. Made it fall.
    Which has nothing to do with a human.

    As God O one mass is stone to anti God meant a man theist tried to anti self.

    As God is not space. So he tried to remove history of energy in space to remove self. Doing all plans as to anti self.

    Proven by his statement Christ was his spirit. When it came from volcano. Like Scientologist claim involving alien thinking and UFO.

    Why he taught no man is God. advice.

    So he theoried sin K hole. A God O earth hole. Origin sun radiation. Also not owning holy son meaning.

    Space. How to make God disappear.

    He uses the same human thought any human uses. As where did creation and self come from.

    The answer already known was not a question. The eternal body. Science knew we came from a spirit place. So had God.

    Jesus proved the eternal spirit was our ownership history. Humans no longer the eternal.. A spirit body in eternal like ours is huge. Space is just a hole in its lost mass God.

    Proven when sink hole anti effect killed humans killed animals burnt the nature garden yet he survived. As the theist man scientist. He personally expected self to become the alien effect.

    Why he preaches a human is an alien first. We are all human babies. Our parents human lives after a living ape animal.

    High percentile water as our life lost by water ground mass support.

    Evaporation effect. Mass radiation removal of

    God O in space mass all energy forms. O earth energy from its beginnings.

    Held in mass.

    A sink hole removed all energy ever held in space not ever space.

    Another false preaching energy always exists. A sink hole proved otherwise. Constant is just gases burning.

    We survived in human form as the eternal body was where we came from originally. The eternal spirit singing direct to the human form opposed space and all God energy lost. As I want to anti my life by thesis.

    Removed by human scientist. Gods firm. Energy held in mass back to an empty sink hole. By knowing energy forms and destroying them.

    We came from eternal into atmosphere as a pre living pre owned spirit body. Who converted it's spirit into a human.

    The event sink hole proved we came from spirit origins as the only fact a scientist will ever own. A story.

    The eternal spirit direct to human manifestation held the human to body form even though God mass became a hole by human bio theism to oppose self presence by energy removal history to a space.

    The theme no man is God.
     
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    "In your opinion...*. Thank you very much.
    That is the problem right there isn't it.
    People inject their opinions into the Bible, and come up with their own script.
    I tend to wonder, if one is going to do that, why mention the Bible at all? Wouldn't it be better to sit and write a book on one's opinions, and call it, "My Story"?
     
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