that is a really ****** comparison...Why does one need to experience a psychedelic trip? Do I also need to experience meth addiction, or can I pick and choose drugs like a Christian picks and chooses bible verses?
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that is a really ****** comparison...Why does one need to experience a psychedelic trip? Do I also need to experience meth addiction, or can I pick and choose drugs like a Christian picks and chooses bible verses?
that is a really ****** comparison...
Well i completly disagree with comparing experiencing a trip with being a meth addicted. but what i was saying was comparing picking and choosing drugs to a christian picking and choosing bible passages. its not at all apt.Not sure how. Explain why psychedelic experience are more important than other drug induced experiences when it all boils down to brain chemistry?
Well i completly disagree with comparing experiencing a trip with being a meth addicted. but what i was saying was comparing picking and choosing drugs to a christian picking and choosing bible passages. its not at all apt.
great post particularly the part i quoted well said. I would add in its also an experience. and importantly a new way to experience the self.The fact of life is, all this stuff about 'seeing god' and the 'spiritual truths' which one may realise prove that these people are indeed clueless.
The primary value of the state is intimate perception of the subtle workings of one's own psyche.
Clearly all those who talk about LSD etc being about 'seeing god' and 'spiritual truths' were emotional hysterics who failed to penetrate the superficial layer of mental constructs to observe the underlying behaviour of their own personalities.
Those therapists who use psychedelics for intractable afflictions such as PTSD get this. Not everyone who uses psychedelia is 'stalking the holy cabbage'.
Most, if not all, of those who are making the argument against psychedelia seem to be in that deluded camp. Unfortunately, some who are enthusiasts also seem to be in that deluded camp.
Meh. The smart ones will work it out for themselves and leave all this spiritual mumbo-jumbo to the children who want to play games.
.My question is why is the brain chemistry caused by something like meth less important?
idk whats so great about sobriety its just a state cause by brain chemistry. a trip isn't an effect its an experience. its more the just brain chemistry. Its an out look, and experience a memory a though a new color. a break of walls.
the exact same thing can be said of heroin, cocain, morphine, etc.
it cannot be said of cocaine or heroin that they trigger intense religious experiences. OTOH it is well established that psilocybe mushrooms (which are not poisonous and have no harmful effects on the body)trigger intense religious experiences
I will agree that psychedelics like LSD do allow one to experience the psyche on a completely different level, as I used to take LSD back ages ago. But if I were to have a perceived religious trip, I doubt I would asign any real meaning to in the days after other than "wow that was a wild ride."
/Adramelek\
More important ? That is a really sloppy question.originally posted by Doors of Perception
Explain why psychedelic experience are more important than other drug induced experiences when it all boils down to brain chemistry?