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Dox GOP senators who'd allow witnesses at impeachment trial

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Salvador, Jan 11, 2020.

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  1. Salvador

    Salvador RF's Swedenborgian

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    Fox News talk show host and conservative political commentator Sean Hannity has vowed to publicize the personal phone numbers of any Republican Senator who'd vote for allowing witnesses to be called to testify during this Senate's impeachment trial of Donald J. Trump. If any Republican Senator were wanting to avoid being bombarded and harassed with phone calls from angry constituents who'd dislike anybody being able to potentially bear false witness at the Senate's Impeachment trial of President Trump., then she/he would best not vote to allow witnesses to testify against our P.O.T.U.S. at the Senate's Impeachment trial.

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  2. dianaiad

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    Witnesses, shmitnesses....the rules for the Senate trial should be precisely the same as the rules for the Clinton trial in the Democrat controlled congress.

    I fail to see why that is a problem. The House did its very partisan thing. It does NOT get to dictate to the Senate how to run the trial. If the House wanted 'fairness,' it should have BEEN fair. If it wanted bipartisanism, it should have BEEN bipartisan. If it wanted 'witnesses' in the Senate, it should have allowed Republican witnesses in the House, and Republican participation.

    Swallow your own pills, guys.
     
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    That is the most absurd reason to not allow witnesses to testify at a trial I've ever heard. Using that logic, no court should ever allow any witness to testify at any time, ever.
     
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    Why?
    The Republicans changed the rules during the Obama administration.
    Why should the rules go back to the 90s?
    Because the Republicans were planning to use them against Obama, and wouldn't have changed them if they'd known that it was a Republican who would actually get impeached?
    Seriously?
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    @Salvador

    I noticed there is no link or source provided in the OP.
     
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    Because, of course, the last thing Trump and his base want is to have actual testimony under oath made in an election year.

    Can't have that.
    Tom
     
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    You realize that the house inquiry was fully bipartisan, right?
    Also, in the Clinton trial, everybody came to the inquiry, including the POTUS; all of whom answered questions.
    You knew that, right? And that Trump obstructed Congress by taking the opposite tact, and prohibiting any of the WH witnesses from attending the Congressional inquiry. Right?
     
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  8. fantome profane

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    I can honestly say that I wouldn’t have believed it if I didn’t see it.

    But still it is unclear if he is talking about personal numbers or their office numbers. If he is talking about office numbers I say go for it. I think every elected official should be forced to wear a bumper sticker on their foreheads.
    upload_2020-1-11_23-40-42.jpeg Except it would say “how is my Governing”

    If he means their personal numbers then a few Senators will have to do like Lindsey Graham when the orange idiot did it to him.
     
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  9. sun rise

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    This tactic reminds me of what is done in dictatorships to those who dare to oppose the sovereign. It shows that the Trump party is turning into a dictatorship. It resembles very closely with the purges that communist parties did with those who disagreed with the party line.

    It also ties in with what the totalitarian trump party is doing to Republican Senator Mike Lee for daring to disagree with the almighty maximum ruler: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/10/now-mike-lee-knows-what-it-feels-like/

    The Trump party is all about lying because der Leader lies all the time. It's part of his gaslighting the American people.

    Attributed to Goebbels:
    If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

    This is exactly what Trump and the Trump party is trying to do.
     
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    I am against this type of targeted transparency as it seems like people only advocate for it when it helps them. If the principle was a general point I would agree but it is not being presented as such. In general having information regarding how your representatives vote is useful for the voter. I question the motives of Fox which is my point of disagreement.
     
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    The courts can resolve issues with subpoenas. That is actually one of the purposes of SCOTUS, to resolve issues between Congress and the Executive. The Dems didn't want to go with the court option thus that is their problem. Obstruction of Congress is a fiction created by the Dems because of their own choices in how to proceed.
     
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    What if someone doxxed the doxxer? i.e., publish Hannity's phone number and address?
     
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    Hannity has been doxxed for years. He is who he is after all.
     
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    Why not? And remember; Obama wasn't impeached.

    What ARE you talking about? Unlike this last go-round, idiotic calls for Obama's impeachment from the weird (birther, anybody?) were shouted down BY REPUBLICANS. Nothing was ever done by the House, and CERTAINLY the Republicans never pulled what Pelosi has.

    They certainly had no chance, and no wish, to 'change the rules' regarding impeachment or Senate trials.

    But YOU folks have done so. The House impeached Trump. The meetings and the vote were purely partisan. The Republicans weren't allowed to participate in most of the secret sessions, never mind call any witnesses. Now the House wants to dictate to the Senate how to run the trial?

    I don't think so. If it turns out that the Senate does this exactly according to the rules used during the Clinton trial, and does what was done then....that is, vote right down partisan lines, you people have only yourselves to blame.

    And you HAVE ensured Trump's win in 2020. I mean, really. I voted for Trump last time holding my nose. It was a vote against Hillary more than a vote for Trump, but if I'm around to vote this coming fall, well, it'll still be a vote against whoever is running against him more than it is a vote for him, but he's not done a bad job as president at all so far.

    In spite of all the chicken littles on the left.
     
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    Nice irony/sarcasm.

    Unless you were serious.

    You weren't serious, were you?

    Great googly moogly. You were serious.

    Nobody was allowed in. Pay attention.
     
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    You did not follow the news. How was the Democratic process "unfair"?
     
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    Though as you pointed out there is no link he did have this phrase:

    " personal phone numbers" That does not sound like office numbers to me. I would have no problem with office numbers either.
     
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    My hope is that if he does, the GOP does the right thing regardless.
     
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    Ah. You didn’t hear. They did.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...e26cc8-018d-11ea-8bab-0fc209e065a8_story.html

    A Tale of Two Nixons: Executive Branch Officials Must Comply with House Subpoenas

    Oh I see. You probably get your lies (you’re calling them “facts”) from sources like Rush Limbaugh or Fox ‘News’. :rolleyes:
    No, GOP hasn’t been shut out of impeachment hearings
     
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