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DOWN WITH PRES. WASHINGTON UP WITH LENIN!

Stevicus

Stevicus

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I think we still have a statue of Pancho Villa in downtown Tucson. I don't think anyone has tried to tear it down.

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Windwalker

Windwalker

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KenS said:
So... let's tear down George Washington statues and Ulysses Grant but keep Lenin's Statue standing without one defacing?

Statue of Lenin (Seattle) - Wikipedia
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Did you actually read the article you linked to?

It has become a Fremont landmark, and frequently has been decorated, or vandalized. The statue has sparked political controversy, including criticisms for being communist chic and as not taking the historic meaning of Lenin and communism seriously, or for taking it all too seriously, or by comparing the purported acceptance of such a charged political symbol to the removal of Confederate monuments and memorials. The monument is situated on private property, complicating efforts to remove it.​

What's you point of this thread? To start a disinformation campaign here on RF? What you said in the OP, and what it says in the article are opposites. This is a clear misrepresentation of the facts. And you even linked to it!

KenS said:
So... what is this really about? (The tearing down of statues)
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Not that you seem actually interested in understand why other human beings are as upset as they are about all this, but there is a great deal of information about this. It only took me a matter of a couple of hours of honest research to get the history behind them, tied in directly to Jim Crow south and lynchings, enough to get a pretty clear picture.

I would recommend you as a Christian educate yourself about these things that affect your fellow human beings, in order to show a little empathy and compassion with them. That's what I would recommend.

I could gather a few good resources to help get you kick started, if you care to educate yourself. Let me know, and I'll be happy to share. Facts, not fictions, Ken.
 
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Kenny

Kenny

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Windwalker said:
Did you actually read the article you linked to?

It has become a Fremont landmark, and frequently has been decorated, or vandalized. The statue has sparked political controversy, including criticisms for being communist chic and as not taking the historic meaning of Lenin and communism seriously, or for taking it all too seriously, or by comparing the purported acceptance of such a charged political symbol to the removal of Confederate monuments and memorials. The monument is situated on private property, complicating efforts to remove it.​

What's you point of this thread? To start a disinformation campaign here on RF? What you said in the OP, and what it says in the article are opposites. This is a clear misrepresentation of the facts. And you even linked to it!


Not that you seem actually interested in understand why other human beings are as upset as they are about all this, but there is a great deal of information about this. It only took me a matter of a couple of hours of honest research to get the history behind them, tied in directly to Jim Crow south and lynchings, enough to get a pretty clear picture.

I would recommend you as a Christian educate yourself about these things that affect your fellow human beings, in order to show a little empathy and compassion with them. That's what I would recommend.

I could gather a few good resources to help get you kick started, if you care to educate yourself. Let me know, and I'll be happy to share. Facts, not fictions, Ken.
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The reality that it isn't pulled down That's obvious, isn't it?
 
Q

QuestioningMind

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KenS said:
So... let's tear down George Washington statues and Ulysses Grant but keep Lenin's Statue standing without one defacing?

Statue of Lenin (Seattle) - Wikipedia

So... what is this really about? (The tearing down of statues)
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Do you seriously not get the difference between a privately owned statue on private land and a public statue that's maintained by tax dollars on public land? Or are you just attempting to promote another false equivalency?
 
Kenny

Kenny

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QuestioningMind said:
Do you seriously not get the difference between a privately owned statue on private land and a public statue that's maintained by tax dollars on public land? Or are you just attempting to promote another false equivalency?
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Do you not see the similarity between destroying private businesses and a private statue? Do you not see the irony of being totally upset about Ulysses Grant and being fine with Lenin? Are you just because it is a public statue, it gives you the permission to tear it down? Does that mean because the statue of Abraham Lincoln is on public property and paid for by tax dollars, I can go up there and deface it and tear it down?

Is there any logic in your statement?
 
Stevicus

Stevicus

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QuestioningMind said:
Do you seriously not get the difference between a privately owned statue on private land and a public statue that's maintained by tax dollars on public land? Or are you just attempting to promote another false equivalency?
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I guess there is some irony in the fact that Lenin's statue is protected because it's on private property.
 
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