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Does the state of the U.S. economy predict a Trump re-election landslide?

Does the current U.S. economy give President Trump better chances for re-election?

  • Yes

    Votes: 10 40.0%
  • No

    Votes: 15 60.0%

  • Total voters
    25

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Much like the last go around, it is the Democrat's election to lose. There is plenty to use against the Donald and he doesn't poll terribly favorable among moderates. They have to be better this year if they hope to be successful in 2020.
Aye, their front runner isn't even old enuf for the job.
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I don't know who this is, but I ran across the picture, & I like it.
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Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
Aye, their front runner isn't even old enuf for the job.
AOC is too... how do you say... polarizing right now. I get behind some of her ideas, but she is trying to run the table during her first rodeo. I admire the energy, but question the execution.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
AOC is too... how do you say... polarizing right now. I get behind some of her ideas, but she is trying to run the table during her first rodeo. I admire the energy, but question the execution.
As @Shadow Wolf knows, if you want excellence of execution, then you need Bret Hart.
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Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The state of U.S. economy is often used to predict the re-election prospects for Presidents. Does the current state of the economy indicate President Trump will be re-elected?

Consider the following analysis article,
How Trump is on track for a 2020 landslide

Considering any sitting President's chance of re-election is about 87% if we take that in the view of the last three decades, I think the answer to the question is: It really nearly doesn't matter what a President is doing or anything else they are always going to win the second term if they got the first.

If I was a betting man, I wouldn't bet against Trump no more than I would have bet against Obama. :D
 

dingdao

The eternal Tao cannot be told - Tao Te Ching
The average family is not a group of political activists, driven by irrational sentiments and visions of paranoia or utopia. They are regular practical minded people, concerned about the present and future of their immediate family. A strong economy caters to the needs of such people. Their need for a way to achieve family security, will benefit by voting for Trump.

The left is proposing things that sound good and/or appease fear, but will destroy the economy, for everyone except those in power. Try an experiment where you don't use any fossil fuels; gasoline for your transportation or buy anything that uses gasoline for market transport. Also stop using things that indirectly use fossil fuels; electricity as well as stores and factories, to simulate the vision of the green deal. This alone will lead to a collapse of the economy and all types of hardship. No family wants a future of food lines, while those on power get to live anyway they want.

For example, watch any of the Democrat leaders, who are promoting the green deal, as they fly around the country in private and chartered jets, living large. This sets the example of someone who has all the time in the world. The changes they propose is for everyone, except them. Government workers are not on ObamaCare, nor will they be on the green deal. They do not want the crap deal they want to give to the extensive peasant class they hope to create.

Most practical minded people see this. The only chance the Democrats have is to lie, cheat and crap on Trump's parade. This is why they spend the country's time creating intrigue, looking for mud, and suggesting all types of changes to the Constitution; voting laws, such as allowing pets to vote.

Trump has achieved tangible results; economy, that goes beyond the startup rhetoric and promises. Reality, to the practical minded family, will mean more than promises, that do not have to be kept by the shady political class.
I heard microdosing is a thing now... lower your dose.

This is the longest economic expansion in history. Trump's chances of reelection are heavily influenced by the timing of the next recession. Bush's track record of constant expansion was broken at the worst possible time for the Republicans.

If you want to understand Republican's PR strategy, just look at what is published by, and about, Roger Stone.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
The economy is worse and weaker today than when the Trump entered office. Go for it, run on the economy!
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
The economy is worse and weaker today than when the Trump entered office. Go for it, run on the economy!
Unless things have dramatically changed, Trump has continued the same sluggish economic growth that began under Obama.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
This is the longest economic expansion in history. Trump's chances of reelection are heavily influenced by the timing of the next recession. Bush's track record of constant expansion was broken at the worst possible time for the Republicans.
Trump has already established historic trends are not necessarily a good gauge for predicting things related to his presidency, and the 2018 election suggests he may not be able to rely on the economy as a predictor. However, I do feel confident in saying the wall will be a good predictor, and if he doesn't produce one even a weak Democrat candidate is going to stand a very good chance. But if he does manage to get one in time, it will take a very strong Democrat candidate to stand a chance at preventing him from winning.
BUT that all also hinges on the outcome of primaries, in which it's very difficult to predict as there is a chance Republicans could oust Trump before November, and it certainly shortens the time Trump has to come through with a wall. And if he doesn't have one by the time it starts, his supporters are likely to see yet another politician who lied and failed to achieve key campaign promises (especially if Anne Coulture keeps harshly criticizing him).
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
The state of our economy in October or early November of 2020 is what will matter the most for the likelihood of our POTUS getting re-elected. I predict a smart trade deal between China and the U.S. will put us in an economic boom in 2020, and our POTUS gets re-elected in a landslide victory against the highly socialist Democratic Presidential candidate. ...:)
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
The state of our economy in October or early November of 2020 is what will matter the most for the likelihood of our POTUS getting re-elected. I predict a smart trade deal between China and the U.S. will put us in an economic boom in 2020, and our POTUS gets re-elected in a landslide victory against the highly socialist Democratic Presidential candidate. ...:)
That would normally be the case. However, under normal circumstances the Republicans would have won Congress in 2018 but they didn't. And don't forget the wall is of tremendous importance to his base. If he doesn't get it he's going to have a hard time motivating those who believed him the first time. And of course the primaries are done before October, and Trump will have to survive those. His "Conservative Opposition" doesn't bode well for him when it comes to the Republicans selecting who will represent them.
And, please learn what "landslide" means. It's as frequently improperly and embarrassingly misused as the term impeachment. Realistically, chances of Trump winning in a landslide are barely better than zero. (practically and virtually impossible since Trump won't win the big states needed to put him into a landslide victory)
 
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Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
The economy is worse and weaker today than when the Trump entered office. Go for it, run on the economy!

The economy is stronger now than when Trump took office: GDP growth is stronger, Black and Hispanic employment are at record levels, the poverty rate is less, and real wages over the most recent year increased for the first time in many years. ...:)
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
The economy is stronger now than when Trump took office: GDP growth is stronger, Black and Hispanic employment are at record levels, the poverty rate is less, and real wages over the most recent year increased for the first time in many years. ...:)
So no desire to pick at the numbers like when it came time to picking at the numbers of Obama's economic growth?
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
So no desire to pick at the numbers like when it came time to picking at the numbers of Obama's economic growth?

Trump's economic growth rate at three percent, is twice that of Obama's economic growth rate between a paltry one and two percent.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Trump's economic growth rate at three percent, is twice that of Obama's economic growth rate between a paltry one and two percent.
Trump also inherited a growing economy, whereas Obama inherited one that was in a downward spiral. Neither one has saw the middle class grow as it should, neither one has helped address the cost of college (Trump actually hurt grad students), both saw an economy requiring people work longer hours for less pay and fewer benefits, and neither managed to reverse an emerging trend of the next generation doing worse than their parents. Under both, the wealthiest Americans have gained the most and most of the growth has went straight to them.
 

dingdao

The eternal Tao cannot be told - Tao Te Ching
I understand that the manufacturing growth since 2008 has only been in 5 counties nationwide. Not a good track record for someone who ran on bringing manufacturing back to rural America.
 
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