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Does the Bible Permit Women to Lead, Teach, Preach or Speak?
- Thread starter Jethro
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I realize that, but are we talking about "Adam" the metaphoric, mythological origin of humanity, or "Adam" an actual, literal first person created by an actual, literal god?
I ask because the first possibility implies that it's the overall message of the story that's important, not the niddly details (e.g. the exact phrasing God uses in his curses)... like the way that the point of a fable is the moral, not the specifics of what sort of animals were used to express it. Meanwhile, the second possibility implies that it's just a historical account and we don't necessarily need to try to derive a message for our own lives from it.
That depends what sort of god was asking.
Songbird
She rules her life like a bird in flight
Uh huh. And nowhere does he say, "I forbid you to make this condition better."
In other words, and to repeat, the other curses we seem to ignore. The ground work is less toiling thanks to technology, childbirth can be painfree thanks to medicine, and men ruling over women can be resolved by education, or you know, logic.
MORE to the point
Nowhere does the bible tell us that this has need to change
Thank You
So? Can you expand a bit more?
Are you saying that this actually happened? If so, why do you think it means anything more than "the literal person Adam was placed in charge of the literal person Eve"? If not, then there's wiggle-room for interpretation.
Basically, either way you look at it, you're going to have to do some serious justification if you're going to argue that there's a lesson in there that modern people should apply to their own lives.
I've got a side business building prosthetic legs for snakes.
Songbird
She rules her life like a bird in flight
MORE to the point
Nowhere does the bible tell us that this has need to change
Thank You
Okay. If I infer correctly, you are saying that's how things should be?
If you are this literal, do you farm every food by hand that you eat?
Songbird
She rules her life like a bird in flight
I've got a side business building prosthetic legs for snakes.
If the snake was cursed to crawl on his belly, he must have had legs prior to that point. A talking, legged snake.
i can just imagine that this is WAY above (most) peoples head but the man is going to judge the woman
Isaiah 4:1: And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
Isaiah 4:1: And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
Isaiah 4:1: And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
seven women will be begging one man, bringing her own food, clothes, etc
only let them be married to this man to take away the reproach placed on them by Eve
Praise the Lord
seven women will be begging one man, bringing her own food, clothes, etc
only let them be married to this man to take away the reproach placed on them by Eve
Praise the Lord
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Songbird
She rules her life like a bird in flight
Okay, I'll be watching for that day. In the meantime, I'll enjoy life without this kind of condemnation.
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e.r.m.
Church of Christ
You're right. It may not be part of some modern day Jewish cultures, but it is scriptural.