Pudding
Well-Known Member
Please note that the believer i mean in this post means some believer, not all believer.
Asking evidence for some religion/God's believer's claims is not practical. Why?
Because usually what you gets are:
- quoting scripture or use the scripture's prophecy as evidence. Which depends on a person's interpretation and is vague.
- the evidence is personal experience, which cannot show it to others. Then it became a sharing of personal experience and they have no intention to debate, but this is a debate forum, so it's a sharing of personal experience in a debate forum which they have no intent to debate with others. This probably is not a problem if they have say they're only sharing but not debate, but if they sharing their personal experience as fact and wish to convince others that they're right, then i'm not sure it's not a problem.
- saying you have to sincerely believe in or channeling with their God first before their God can enlighten you back (enlighten you to see the evidence), if one fail to seek enlightenment or channeling with their God then it is because one is insincere or using wrong method. Which proves nothing and it's like preaching.
- give irrelevant response.
- give straw men arguments.
- reverse the burden of proof that you have to prove why they're wrong instead of them to prove why they're right.
- faith is a strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof; belief is an acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof. Therefor they don't have to provide evidence for their claims.
I think it's meaningful to asking evidence for some religion/God's believer's claims, but after i know the evidence or response is like the example i've given in the above, then it became meaningless to further asking.
Do you think it's meaningless to asking evidence for religion/God's believer's claims?
What claims do you think is meaningless to ask evidence for, what claims do not?
Asking evidence for some religion/God's believer's claims is not practical. Why?
Because usually what you gets are:
- quoting scripture or use the scripture's prophecy as evidence. Which depends on a person's interpretation and is vague.
- the evidence is personal experience, which cannot show it to others. Then it became a sharing of personal experience and they have no intention to debate, but this is a debate forum, so it's a sharing of personal experience in a debate forum which they have no intent to debate with others. This probably is not a problem if they have say they're only sharing but not debate, but if they sharing their personal experience as fact and wish to convince others that they're right, then i'm not sure it's not a problem.
- saying you have to sincerely believe in or channeling with their God first before their God can enlighten you back (enlighten you to see the evidence), if one fail to seek enlightenment or channeling with their God then it is because one is insincere or using wrong method. Which proves nothing and it's like preaching.
- give irrelevant response.
- give straw men arguments.
- reverse the burden of proof that you have to prove why they're wrong instead of them to prove why they're right.
- faith is a strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof; belief is an acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof. Therefor they don't have to provide evidence for their claims.
I think it's meaningful to asking evidence for some religion/God's believer's claims, but after i know the evidence or response is like the example i've given in the above, then it became meaningless to further asking.
Do you think it's meaningless to asking evidence for religion/God's believer's claims?
What claims do you think is meaningless to ask evidence for, what claims do not?