I was a methodist minster for 20 and now I am a Luciferian and I don't believe that you have to be evil to be part of the LHP. I have known a lot of evil people that were within my old religion but I have yet to meet one within my chosen religion.
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Do you have to be evil to be LHP?
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I was a methodist minster for 20 and now I am a Luciferian and I don't believe that you have to be evil to be part of the LHP. I have known a lot of evil people that were within my old religion but I have yet to meet one within my chosen religion.
One could argue that your entire existence is detrimental to others especially your parents. For the first twenty years of your life you aren't anything but an all-consuming resource pit. Once you mature you are competing for these resources from everyone else, and every one you gain is one you take from someone else.
There is no need to instruct humanity on what it is so artfully designed to accomplish. Lawfulness has nothing to do with the rightness of the action as many things are illegal that are irrelevant -- does it matter if a rifle can shoot 20 rounds by squeezing the trigger or just shoot them all when you hold it down? (The net matters little who ever you shoot is dead anyway...) Then there are whole hosts of victimless crimes like marijuana use, prostitution, and the like. We still waste jail space with these things, and honestly whether you pay for sex with a marriage or cash you still pay.
Perhaps nothing is evil to one who is truly evil... Maybe that is my problem and not everyone else's. :devil:
Christianity is plagued by the concept that you can basically do anything if you repent. Thus the maggot-laden psyches of the average parishioner probably have a lot more dross than the average LHP'er whom doesn't possess a need for spiritual floggings. The worst of humanity is generally always associated with what appears to be the best of it -- it seems really that this delusion is the only thing that allows them to accept their vices at deal with themselves.
To me all actions are of equal value in that anything necessary is necessarily correct. It may be correct to kill, steal, or even rape depending on circumstances: Such as limited resources, population die off, etc... This doesn't obviously include someone's lack of sanity or other such circumstances which are typically the cause of these problems at the moment. Necessity doesn't require an explanation it is just survival. There is no arbitrary morality to apply to it... If you are always doing what you need to do you're never wrong, but intelligence has to be applied to the situation. In modern society the penalty for the crimes is rarely worth the reward, but there are times when it would in fact be the case. I just remain honest to myself about the whole thing and encourage others to do the same.
I agree that there are many laws that breaking them will will not detrimentally affect your mind, as there are some perfectly legal things you can do that will detrimentally affect your mind. A little discernment can go a long ways.
I'd say that we all are evil (or undiscerning, or just outright insane) in varying degrees. How much we contribute to our own insanity will also vary over time within a given individual and vary greatly between individuals.
Orias
Left Hand Path
Innocence has little to do with intention. This includes the innocent and their intentions as well. Evil isn't about purity, nor wisdom, in fact its not about anything, other than what is being targeted.
KidatHeart
Member
Well, what does evil target?
Vasilisa Jade
Formerly Saint Tigeress
I'd say, any possible perceived weakness
Orias
Left Hand Path
Vasilisa Jade
Formerly Saint Tigeress
That too. I concur.
Does that mean that the fringe conservative christians living in a high majority liberal demographic are LHP?
The Sum of Awe
Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Things are only 'strictly' things if you're strict about them.
In Matt 7, Jesus does say: 21 Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord! will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to Me, Lord, Lord, didnt we prophesy in Your name, drive out demons in Your name, and do many miracles in Your name? 23 Then I will announce to them, I never knew you! Depart from Me, you lawbreakers!
This indicates, at least to me, that there are both paths among Jesus' followers.
Jesus himself broke all sorts of taboos of the time, like speaking to Samaratans, doing stuff on the Sabbath, etc. (Quite LHP, no?)
The demons were the ones who consistantly and openly acknowledged his divinity. Make of that what you will.
By extention this would mean that Jesus was 'more than one Way' (truth and life).
Well, he did use a lot of metaphors like, "You are like whitewashed tombs, which appear beautiful on the outside, but inside are full of dead mens bones and every impurity." He constantly pointed towards the inward path of transformation. You can be adversarial and such all you like, but if you don't do the inner work, how does that LHP differ from the RHP that doesn't focus on the inner work as well?
To me the inner path, your path, the personal path ... the path of your own Godhood/Christhood/Higher (Most Wonderful) Self... is the LHP.
"Following" someone on/down the LHP can only be done in the very loosest and most general sense. You can embrace your own path, your own christhood, your own inner life and intuition in the same sense that someone else can embrace his or her own path/christhood, inner life and intuition. It follows from there though... from that starting point... that your path will be a path that is all your own.
To me, the LHP is the path of the self led individual. (which requires personal introspection by it's very nature). That's it really.
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