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Do Creationists Understand The Theory Of Evolution?
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joeboonda
Well-Known Member
LOL, that is exactly how I feel about evolution. Contrary to popular misinformation, science supports creation and destroys the theory of evolution.
... a little-known fact divined by joeboonda but presumably concealed from the overwhelming majority of the scientific community. With hubris like this one wonders why you need religion.
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
Creationists have been saying the same thing, with the same arguments since the 1920's.
It's no closer to being right now than it was then.
wa:do
It's no closer to being right now than it was then.
wa:do
That's the most hilarious part about it.
There are many excellent textbooks for that sort of thing. With a little effort, you can make you way through one.
It might surprise you, as it does many creationists, but the theory is a little bit more nuanced than a bumper sticker slogan. Creationism, on the other hand, is pretty much "God did it".
I assume that means you've never read a textbook on the subject. The good news, then, is that nothing is stopping you from reading a good textbook written by an "evolutionist".
supersport
Member
well I've yet to hear an evolutionist tell me what ToE is....why am I not surprised. What are you waiting for???? Don't go criticizing creationists for not defining it ----- you not defining it either makes you a hypocrite. It's your theory -- so let's hear it.
The almighty WiKi:
In biology, evolution is the change in the inherited traits of a population from generation to generation. These traits are the expression of genes that are copied and passed on to offspring during reproduction. Mutations in these genes can produce new or altered traits, resulting in heritable differences (genetic variation) between organisms. New traits can also come from transfer of genes between populations, as in migration, or between species, in horizontal gene transfer. Evolution occurs when these heritable differences become more common or rare in a population, either non-randomly through natural selection or randomly through genetic drift.
supersport
Member
I asked for a definition of your own words....anyone can cut and paste. Tell me how epigenetics works into ToE.
Are you being disingenuous?
supersport
Member
This was my original, first post on this thread:
why don't you, in your own words, tell me what it is and I'll tell you if I understand it or not.
why don't you, in your own words, tell me what it is and I'll tell you if I understand it or not.
Why do you want my definition? Are you not satisfied with the definition described by Evolutionary Biologists? Because that is the most accurate definition anyone can give you
TurkeyOnRye
Well-Known Member
There are a lot of creationists who have had a slight education on evolution and natural selection, but when they try to define it, ask questions or make arguments etc, they completely miss it. Evolution/Natural selection is not something that you can just speed learn or memorize. I find that many people have a difficult time grasping the ideas. Not only do you have to learn it, you have to feel it and understand it. The mind must transform into a microcosm for the ideas that must be considered for this theory. I think understanding of evolution comes in the form of epiphanies.
"There are some people who have a hard time believing that something as complex as the eye just...created itself." - Ted Haggard
"There are some people who have a hard time believing that something as complex as the eye just...created itself." - Ted Haggard
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Actually, an experiment that has been successfully repeated many times has put various substances in a bottle, added an electrical charge, and created life. Allthough I forget the original scientists who performed this, if you are curious, I'm sure there are plenty of members here who can give you the names so you can research this experiment further.
Actually, fossils, the Ice Age, the Grand Canyon, fossil fuels, certain trees, petrified wood, and many other things quickly and easily disprove creationism. And in the science community, creationism and ID are considered to be laughable at best.
TurkeyOnRye
Well-Known Member
I can vouch for that. It is documented in most biology textbooks. However, I would like to amend what you say; they did not get "life," they got organic substances such as amino acids and sugars: essential building blocks of life.
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
yes, but things like prions and viruses tend to make defining 'life' tricky.
self replicating organic molecules are tricky things for creationists to talk about.
wa:do
self replicating organic molecules are tricky things for creationists to talk about.
wa:do
TurkeyOnRye
Well-Known Member
As is the discussion of the fossil record...
