Did Adam and Eve and animals have genitals before the fall?

[Bthoth]

Don't those rules work for the good of everyone in every nation __________

About universal for mankind.

Jesus gave us a New Commandment found at John 13:34-35 to have the same self-sacrificing love for others as he has.

Do unto others as you would have done unto you.

In other words, we are now to love neighbor MORE than self, More than the Golden Rule of Leviticus 19:18

OK. Love is word that has a bunch of ambiguity.

Yes, Jesus came and left - Luke 19:11-15 - but that does Not me he will Not take the action of Isaiah 11:3-4; Rev. 19:14-15.
Both those verses will be fulfilled.

Will be, but not has been while jesus was here .

When the powers in charge will be saying, " Peace and Security...." (1st Thess. 5:2-3) that will be the precursor to the coming Great Tribulation of Rev. 7:14 before Jesus' sword-like words will rid the Earth of the wicked.

You keep using the name of a person, long past and gone.

What you are awaiting is the man you have been led to believe is jesus (messiah).

 

[URAVIP2ME]

About universal for mankind.
Do unto others as you would have done unto you.
OK. Love is word that has a bunch of ambiguity.
Will be, but not has been while jesus was here .
You keep using the name of a person, long past and gone.
What you are awaiting is the man you have been led to believe is jesus (messiah).

The 'New Commandment' found at John 13:34-35 is superior to the old do unto others as you wold have done unto you.
Now it is: do onto others as Jesus would have done unto you.
Have the same self-sacrificing love for others as Jesus had is superior to the Golden Rule.
Now love neighbor MORE than self. Self-sacrificing love to love others MORE than self.
I find nothing wrong with what the Bible teaches about Jesus.
The Bible does Not lead astray, but often man's wrong teachings is what leads astray.

 

[Bthoth]

The 'New Commandment' found at John 13:34-35 is superior to the old do unto others as you wold have done unto you.

Following the rules is superior as you expect them as much as any neighbor. John is not the last word. The commandments were as good then as still now.

Now it is: do onto others as Jesus would have done unto you.

That's religious interpretations, not personal responsibility.

Have the same self-sacrificing love for others as Jesus had is superior to the Golden Rule.

again, you are making up beliefs, using scripture.

Now love neighbor MORE than self. Self-sacrificing love to love others MORE than self.

Following the commandments is putting personal responsibility before self. What you are doing is creating new beliefs.

I find nothing wrong with what the Bible teaches about Jesus.

I do

The Bible does Not lead astray,

Sure it does/did. Scribes and pharisee, gave you the belief that john 13:34-35 supersedes the commandments. That's just wrong.

but often man's wrong teachings is what leads astray.

I agree, I am witnessing your beliefs.

 

[Mark La Buda]

Before Sin, there was no death. If Adam and Eve and the animals had genitals, it would only a matter of time before reproduction would cause Earth to became over populated had nobody sinned. Am I missing something here?

After Adam and Eve’s creation they did not know the significance of their genitals. They may be likened to very young children. Such children are not aware of the significance of their genitals and are not aware of their nakedness when unclothed. After they sinned, both became aware of their nakedness and their genitals. Consequently, they fashioned “…fig leaves together and made loin coverings for themselves.” (Genesis 3:7) They did this because sin caused them to realize that they were naked.-Genesis 3:10, 11.

God Almighty gave Adam the warning about dying for disobedience. With whom, what or how was Adam able to understand that warning? (Genesis 2:17) How could he relate to it? Although the Bible does not say specifically, Adam certainly witnessed animals reproducing and dying.

Animals were of a different creative purpose. They were not given the gift of everlasting life nor were they given “free will” like other intelligent spirit creatures in the heavens. They were influenced by instinct.-Genesis 1:26, 27.

 

[shunyadragon]

After Adam and Eve’s creation they did not know the significance of their genitals. They may be likened to very young children. Such children are not aware of the significance of their genitals and are not aware of their nakedness when unclothed. After they sinned, both became aware of their nakedness and their genitals. Consequently, they fashioned “…fig leaves together and made loin coverings for themselves.” (Genesis 3:7) They did this because sin caused them to realize that they were naked.-Genesis 3:10, 11.

Humans have been humans and reproduced naturally for 300,000 years or more as well as our primate ancestors and all evolving life, animals, plants and microbes reproducing very well for at least 3.7 billion years of evolved live.

God Almighty gave Adam the warning about dying for disobedience. With whom, what or how was Adam able to understand that warning? (Genesis 2:17) How could he relate to it? Although the Bible does not say specifically, Adam certainly witnessed animals reproducing and dying.

Warnings such as this are of no consequence. In this mythical version God Created Adam and Eve as fallible humans destined to fail.

It is like putting cany bars on the coffee table in front of the TV, and warning the children of severe consequences of eating them,

Animals were of a different creative purpose. They were not given the gift of everlasting life nor were they given “free will” like other intelligent spirit creatures in the heavens. They were influenced by instinct.-Genesis 1:26, 27.

It has been objectively determined that humans are directly influenced by instincts. Yes, humans may have a degree of Free Will, but you like many others that advocate Libertarian Free Will neglect the many obvious limitations on humans ability to make choices.Ibstinct are one of these natural limitations.

 

[Audie]

After Adam and Eve’s creation they did not know the significance of their genitals. They may be likened to very young children. Such children are not aware of the significance of their genitals and are not aware of their nakedness when unclothed. After they sinned, both became aware of their nakedness and their genitals. Consequently, they fashioned “…fig leaves together and made loin coverings for themselves.” (Genesis 3:7) They did this because sin caused them to realize that they were naked.-Genesis 3:10, 11.

God Almighty gave Adam the warning about dying for disobedience. With whom, what or how was Adam able to understand that warning? (Genesis 2:17) How could he relate to it? Although the Bible does not say specifically, Adam certainly witnessed animals reproducing and dying.

Animals were of a different creative purpose. They were not given the gift of everlasting life nor were they given “free will” like other intelligent spirit creatures in the heavens. They were influenced by instinct.-Genesis 1:26, 27.

Is this really-really something you
wonder about??

 

[Spice]

Gen 3:16
To the woman he said, “I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be contrary to your husband, but he shall rule over you.”

0 x 0 = 0 so childbirth pain would have already been established prior to the fall for its intensity to be multipled as a result of.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Before Sin, there was no death. If Adam and Eve and the animals had genitals, it would only a matter of time before reproduction would cause Earth to became over populated had nobody sinned. Am I missing something here?

According to the legend, God created each of the animals as a potential "partner" for Adam. He only created Eve as a Plan B after none of the animals were to Adam's liking.

...so in the original plan, apparently overpopulation of humans wouldn't have been an issue.

 

[shunyadragon]

According to the legend, God created each of the animals as a potential "partner" for Adam. He only created Eve as a Plan B after none of the animals were to Adam's liking.

...so in the original plan, apparently overpopulation of humans wouldn't have been an issue.

Belief in ancient mythology is apparently a communicable and inherited disease over many many generations.

 

[shunyadragon]

About universal for mankind.

In many cultures and religions in the world before even the Pentateuch was compiled after 600 BCE

There is direct evidence among Neanderthals that they cared for the elderly and physically disabled.

 

[Spice]

According to the legend, God created each of the animals as a potential "partner" for Adam. He only created Eve as a Plan B after none of the animals were to Adam's liking.

Well that clarifies that the Garden of Eden wasn't in any of the few backwoods areas I've heard about.

 

[metis]

After God made Eve, Adam asked what this means for him? God said "Adam, go and multiply". Adam returned hour later and asked "What's a headache?".

 

[Subduction Zone]

Well that clarifies that the Garden of Eden wasn't in any of the few backwoods areas I've heard about.

Do not, I repeat, do not Google search "Enumclaw Man".

 

[shunyadragon]

Well that clarifies that the Garden of Eden wasn't in any of the few backwoods areas I've heard about.

They have paved it over. It is now a parking lot

 

[Spice]

They have paved it over. It is now a parking lot

Oh yeah, I remember hearing about that!

 

[shunyadragon]

After God made Eve, Adam asked what this means for him? God said "Adam, go and multiply". Adam returned hour later and asked "What's a headache?".

No wonder they hated math.

 

[YoursTrue]

Humans have been humans and reproduced naturally for 300,000 years or more...

Substantiation please?

 

[shunyadragon]

Substantiation please?

This is the third or fourth time I posted this and related references. By the way it is widely accepted on this forum you do not accept scientific substantiation,

An Evolutionary Timeline of Homo Sapiens

Scientists share the findings that helped them pinpoint key moments in the rise of our species

www.smithsonianmag.com

No scientists suggest that Homo sapiens first lived in what’s now Morocco, because so much early evidence for our species has been found in both South Africa and East Africa. But fragments of 300,000-year-old skulls, jaws, teeth and other fossils found at Jebel Irhoud, a rich site also home to advanced stone tools, are the oldest Homo sapiens remains yet found.

The remains of five individuals at Jebel Irhoud exhibit traits of a face that looks compellingly modern, mixed with other traits like an elongated brain case reminiscent of more archaic humans. The remains’ presence in the northwestern corner of Africa isn’t evidence of our origin point, but rather of how widely spread humans were across Africa even at this early date.

Other very old fossils often classified as early Homo sapiens come from Florisbad, South Africa (around 260,000 years old), and the Kibish Formation along Ethiopia’s Omo River (around 195,000 years old).

The 160,000-year-old skulls of two adults and a child at Herto, Ethiopia, were classified as the subspecies Homo sapiens idaltu because of slight morphological differences including larger size. But they are otherwise so similar to modern humans that some argue they aren’t a subspecies at all. A skull discovered at Ngaloba, Tanzania, also considered Homo sapiens, represents a 120,000-year-old individual with a mix of archaic traits and more modern aspects like smaller facial features and a further reduced brow.

 

[Aupmanyav]

If Adam and Eve and the animals had genitals, .. ? Am I missing something here?

Yeah, sure. If they did not have genital, what did they hide with the proverbial fig leaves?

 

[☆Dreamwind☆]

Nevermind that fish, insects/arachnids, reptiles, amphibians and birds themselves have been in the fossil records long before the first mammals.

Our ancient ancestors weren't Barbie and Ken dolls that had nothing down there. That doesn't make sense for multi-celled organisms to just split off like single-celled organisms. Even other people were already around when Adam and Eve got the boot from the garden.