Whoa, ho ho ho ho. Well you are sincere, and that counts for something.
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Democratic Debate
- Thread starter Jake1001
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I was laughing at the pun of using the word actually.
TPaine
I believe in one God, and the equality of man.
As a Democrat, I'd be very pleased if the Republicons dump Trump and he responds by running as an independent candidate. That would blow the Republicon's chance to win the election out of the water.
This scenario works. Another good one is where Trumpy stays in till the bitter end and fatally wounds his repobo opponents. Some folks say that is what happened to "the Mitt" last election.
I predict Carson becomes front runner for a while, then both Trump and Carson are forgotten. The eventual choice will be Kasich, Bush or Cruze.
I don't like to talk about the repobos much in the Liberal DIR, but I think you are close. I would throw Rubio in there for yucks, and I think they're all covered. Oh, and I think Cruze is too religious right even for those guys. It's all good for Hill!
True. Its the representatives and the senators that get to act in the shadows. Who is vetting them? I think 1 in a 100 even knows the names of senators in 3 states.
TPaine
I believe in one God, and the equality of man.
When Ben Carson said, "Back Israel and follow what Netanyahu wants on Iran." (May 2015) I decided he is unqualified to become POTUS. No President should even hint that (s)he believes that (s)he should follow what any foreign leader be it Netanyahu or someone else tells him or her what to do in foreign affairs.
TPaine
I believe in one God, and the equality of man.
I believe that Bernie's response to the question of his being a socialist was weak. It would have been better if he had said that we have had two Democratic Socialist presidents in the 20th century, Theodore and Franklin Roosevelt who held political beliefs similar to mine. Both were re-elected, Theodore once and Franklin three times. They American people must have thought they did a good job.
I believe Ben Carson was speaking to his audience. He has a strong evangelical base, and that is exactly what they would want to hear. I think he would be a very strong contender as vice president or as president and he would let the libertarians and hawks walk all over him.
TPaine
I believe in one God, and the equality of man.
Every President of the United States has served as either:
Vice President of the United States
a Member of Congress
a Governor of a state
a Cabinet Secretary
a General of the United States Army
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_other_offices_held
Ben Carson, if elected, would be the first president that no governmental experience. To me that's worrysome.
dust1n
Zindīq
I don't even remember the response, it's been a while. However, I'm aware enough to know democratic socialist is about as vague and nearly meaningless as any other term, so I don't sweat the identity political. He could be a communist, he could call himself a fairy, he could be labelled a toast-****er for all I care. Until people explicitly spell things out, there isn't much point on hanging unto people's single-phrased identities.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
What's even more worrisome is what this guy believes.
I believe at this moment many Republicans are frustrated with their party, but Bernie Sanders does not have enough name recognition. They don't know who he is or how he relates to them. They think they know Hillary Clinton already and so aren't looking for more information about her at all. Was that McCarthy's problem in '68, too?The last debate was pretty good. I think the Bern brings some god new ideas to the mainstream and Hill adapts them. The energy of his campaign is reminiscent of Eugene McCarthy in '68. Anyone recall the outcome of that election ? It rhymes with "Vixen".
The 1968 election was a very divisive one for the Democrats. Eugene McCarthy was strongly anti-war. Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King were killed that year. And a third party candidate, George Wallace, ran. It ended with the election of Richard Nixon (rhymes with Vixen), perhaps the worst President of all time.
I hope the Bern does not lead to a 1968 rerun.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
As one who was raised in a strongly Republican family and was originally one myself, I gradually "converted" during the Kennedy years largely because of the civil rights issue, and when Robert Kennedy was assassinated, that tore me up so bad that I couldn't even watch most of his funeral. To this day, he's still my favorite political figure.
Ironically, even L.B. Johnson was good on civil rights. But it was during JFK's Presidency that the issue took off. RFK would have been a great President. Both Kennedy assassinations were tragedies for the country and it is amazing it was possible to happen twice. I think JFK's son would have had some great impact if he had not died in the plane crash. Tragic family !
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Agreed, and even though LBJ was far from being my favorite Democrat, I give him tons of credit for sticking with his conscience and signing into law the Civil Rights Acts that he was warned would ultimately kill the Democrats in the South.