Democrate part is communist

[Twilight Hue]

Controlling pollutants isn't controlling all means of production.
I mean really, it's not. What are you trying to say?
Tom

Of course it is trying to run the Plastics industry into the ground. Socialist Democrats are telling and dictating to stores how to run their businesses. What to charge, what they can and cannot carry.

Sounds like controlling the means and way of production to me.

 

[Twilight Hue]

So any regulation at all = government ownership of the means of production?

If I bought the property next to you and started a tire burning service and nuclear waste repository, you'd be okay with it? And if any government entity attempted to regulate what I was doing, you'd stand with me and fight it?

That's why they have zoning requirements.

Otherwise I would fight on your side.

I already lost one job because of the Socialist Democrats and they are making it hard enough for me to keep my present one because they simply have to meddle in just about every business and personal affairs of people on their own property. I can't even park my car on my own lawn without getting a ticket from the Socialist Democrats.

 

[Father Heathen]

The Socialist Democrats are already trying to control businesses. Look at the plastic bag ban and all that for example. Controlling the means of production using the excuse of environmentalism to justify it all.

Additionally look at the UK. It's become a literal surveillance state where everybody is being watched and monitored continually 24/7. It's gotten to the point where they're even breaking the law with it all making grievous violations of human rights to privacy.

UK Mass Surveillance Ruled Unlawful

That's what the left is and what it's all about.

It could just as easily be said that the theocratic republicans want to control peoples bodies by dictating when to bear children, who to love and how, and what plants thy can or can't consume. The theocratic republicans also want to control speech by making you stand for the anthem, the pledge or school lead prayer.

Also, if you hate "socialism", don't support the military nor the police and stay off of public roads and out of public schools, libraries, parks, museums, etc.

 

[Twilight Hue]

But it's funny enough for quasi-words, like "the democrate part".

I'm guessing it might possibly be a language barrier.

 

[columbus]

When 'the right' say they promote liberty, they usually mean theocratically approved liberty (which obviously isn't real liberty.)

Not anymore.
It's about corporate liberty.
Not that it's all that different, or that the Demopublican elite are all that different.
The people who run this country are the very rich. The amoral rich. People who know that Christianity and democracy and the law and such will get in the way.
So they don't believe in in any of that claptrap.
Tom

 

[Twilight Hue]

It could just as easily be said that the theocratic republicans want to control peoples bodies by dictating when to bear children, who to love and how, and what plants thy can or can't consume. The theocratic republicans also want to control speech by making you stand for the anthem, the pledge or school lead prayer.

Also, if you hate "socialism", don't support the military nor the police and stay off of public roads and out of public schools, libraries, parks, museums, etc.

That's another little smoke and mirrors the Socialist Democrats like doing. Equating common social programs with politically motivated socialism.

 

[Jose Fly]

That's why they have zoning requirements.

Isn't that the government controlling my private enterprise?

Otherwise I would fight on your side.

And you'd be just fine with unregulated smoke and chemicals coming from the tires, and unregulated nuclear waste potentially leaching into the water supply?

I already lost one job because of the Socialist Democrats and they are making it hard enough for me to keep my present one because they simply have to meddle in just about every business and personal affairs of people on their own property. I can't even park my car on my own lawn without getting a ticket from the Socialist Democrats.

Are you of the belief that businesses should not be regulated at all?

 

[Father Heathen]

I'm guessing it might possibly be a language barrier.

Or an age barrier.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Isn't that the government controlling my private enterprise?


And you'd be just fine with unregulated smoke and chemicals coming from the tires, and unregulated nuclear waste potentially leaching into the water supply?


Are you of the belief that businesses should not be regulated at all?

I'm for regulation within reason.

Most of the compulsory legislation and regulation coming from the Socialist Democrats is not reasonable whatsoever.

When was the last time incentive-based regulations were introduced? I can't remember. It's always compulsory now.

 

[columbus]

Of course it is trying to run the Plastics industry into the ground.

Do you realize how stupid it sounds to claim that controlling disposable, unnecessary, bags is "controlling the plastics industry"?
I'm in favor of a more capitalistic method. Tax the bags at the rate it would require to pay for all waste disposal, including pulling such bags out of canyons and the ocean.
I'm fine with capitalistic solutions to a problem. It's faux conservative people who oppose such solutions to modern problems.
Tom

 

[Father Heathen]

That's another little smoke and mirrors the Socialist Democrats like doing. Equating common social programs with politically motivated socialism.

No, that's what you are doing with your bull**** 'red scare' boogyman.

 

[Jose Fly]

I'm for regulation within reason.

Most of the compulsory legislation and regulation coming from the Socialist Democrats is not reasonable whatsoever.

That's a bit different than what you posted earlier, where telling businesses how to do things constituted controlling the means of production.

So regulation that you personally determine to be "reasonable" is just fine and dandy in a capitalistic system, and regulation that you personally determine to be "unreasonable" constitutes communism.

Fascinating.

 

[Father Heathen]

Not anymore.
It's about corporate liberty.
Not that it's all that different, or that the Demopublican elite are all that different.
The people who run this country are the very rich. The amoral rich. People who know that Christianity and democracy and the law and such will get in the way.
So they don't believe in in any of that claptrap.
Tom

They play the patriotic/religious angle to get dumdums to vote against their own interests. Democracy has been described as two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner, but we can have two sheep and a wolf and mutton would still win the vote.

 

[Jollybear]

Okay, so the Democratic Party is not calling for government ownership of businesses, nor are they calling for the abolition of private enterprise.

If someone sets the rules of your business and taxes you for it, wouldnt you say they own it?

Next up, where is the Democratic Party calling for everyone to be paid the exact same salary, as determined by the federal government?

Minimum wage laws. Particularly the 15$ push now.

 

[Jose Fly]

If someone sets the rules of your business and taxes you for it, wouldnt you say they own it?

Nope. The only alternative to that is zero taxes and zero laws....IOW anarchy.

Minimum wage laws. Particularly the 15$ push now.

Are they calling for everyone to make no more than $15 per hour?

 

[Jollybear]

name one democrat that demonstrated the ideas that’s similar to communist? Simply putting together a whole bunch of word salad doesn’t mean anything. Under communism, most property and economic resources are owned and controlled by the state. Show one democrat that purposes that

The OP isnt word salid. I made some stark solid points in there.

Show one demicrate? I showed it from the democrate website itself.

I showed it by the definitions of socialism and communism. All your doing is resisting this.

If im regulating your business and taxing it, you may as well say i own it.

 

[Jollybear]

Nope. The only alternative to that is zero taxes and zero laws....IOW anarchy.

No, its not zero taxes and zero laws. The taxes are of a certain kind though. Not tax on business or land, but sales taxes to pay for government services.

The laws are not laws to burden business but laws to PROTECT businesses. Like laws against theft. Simple.

Are they calling for everyone to make no more than $15 per hour?

No, there not. But, your missing the point. By making a minimum wage, its working toward that "equality" and that lowers employment and destroys incentive to move up the economic ladder.

 

[Samantha Rinne]

This is where your deceived. Communists are ALSO fascists.

This.

The definition of fascism is not "Conservative people that I don't agree with." The term is thus:

1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

Basically, communism and fascism are identical except for minor points.

Fascism favors nation and race above the individual and favors strong government.
Communism favors the masses and the community (though usually they in fact have a leader that benefits) above individual and favors strong government.

Both: You < Favored Group

Also, you are an adorable fluffy bunny and I love your avatar.

 

[Jollybear]

Of course it is trying to run the Plastics industry into the ground. Socialist Democrats are telling and dictating to stores how to run their businesses. What to charge, what they can and cannot carry.

Sounds like controlling the means and way of production to me.

And some democrats wanna ban cows due to there farting CO2, lol

 

[Terry Sampson]

And all you lefties are blind to it and you need to wake up.

They're awake. And they're coming to get you.