That's the same in any organization. Disobey the boss and you lose your place in that company.
I own a software company.
The other day I asked one of my programmers something stupid. He said "no, that's stupid".
He explained his view and I didn't fire the guy. Instead, I gave him a reward for being correct and thanked him for not just simply blindly doing whatever he's told.
I like employees who actually think things through.
And if he were wrong, I'ld explain to him why he was wrong and then ask him again to do it, while also noting he did a good job for thinking it over. Because better safe then sorry.
Then again, I'm off course not some narcistic egotist who demands worship and claims to be perfect in every way.
Shocking isn’t it!
What the boss says...goes.
Like in North Korea.
Why should God be any different? He is THE authority figure...
Indeed. All authoritarian dictators are alike.
.there is no one that outranks him. He doesn't make rules for no reason. Disrespect them at you will regret it.
Yes. Might makes right, right?
I think you fail to see a lot of things that I see.....since God is the author of morality, how can he be immoral?
This is what we call moral bankrupcy.
How does evolution explain morality since it is a uniquely human trait?
How does morality even fit into evolution?
First of all, it is not at all a
uniquely human trait. ALL social species have some notion of morality.
And the evolutionary reason for that, is social group dynamics.
Humans having the most "complex" moral system isn't really surprising considering humans also evolved in the most complex social grouping. These things go hand in hand.
If you are going to live in a co-operative society, where YOUR survival and well being is very much related to the survival and well-being of the other members of the group, then social contracts and morals are going to be important for the group to flourish.
That is exactly what they are to the outside observer.
By "outside observer", do you mean a scientifically illiterate religious fundamentalist like yourself?
Denying it doesn’t make it otherwise. If you have no proof...you need belief. Belief requires faith. You guys have as much of a belief system as I do....but it galls you to even think about it.
Nukes explode - that's evidence of the accuracy of atomic theory
Planes fly - that's evidence of the accuracy of aerodynamics
GPS works - that's evidence of the accuracy of relativity.
Next to that, actually being scientifically literate (ie: understanding how the scientific process works, and having a basic education in the natural sciences), is in itself already enough to know that the fruits of science are the best we can do when it comes to unraveling reality. Being scientifically literate, also helps in understanding that all explanatory models in science are always provisional.
Please don't project your scientific illiteracy on the rest of us.
“Empirical evidence is the information received by means of the senses, particularly by observation and documentation of patterns and behavior through experimentation. The term comes from the Greek word for experience, ἐμπειρία (empeiría).” (Google search)
This describes what Bible believers base their faith on as well.
No. Empirical evidence is about data collection. Not about retelling anecdotes and "testimony".
We have senses and we can observe creation and rely on the documentation of the who is responsible for creation. We see patterns of behavior and our own lives testify to how amazingly well designed we are.
That is your religious belief.
No one needed to drag it anywhere...it was already there. Scientists just pretend that science fiction is science fact....its a snow job.
This is either a statement of extreme ignorance, or just a blatant lie.
Evolutionists have already told me several times that science has no proof for anything....
Which has nothing to do with evolution and everything with how science works.
But you've already made it
crystal clear that you have
no clue about how science works.
Typical creationist argument... rant against science while being scientifically illiterate to the point of it being just embarassing.
.when you have no proof, then you 'believe' on 'faith'.....
It's called scientific
evidence.
faith in the 'religion' of science....how is that not obvious?
It's not obvious to us, because we actually understand how science works.
The only thing obvious here, is that you have no clue (or pretend to have no clue) and thus spout ignorance (or dishonesty) as a result.
We all observe things through our own lens....
Yes. And in your case, it's a biblical lens.
.we just have different 'opticians'.
Yes. Science has a ridiculously awesome optician, allowing you to see in mega ultra high definition.
While your bible provides you with a few blurps and distorted images and then tells you what it is you're seeing and you then just believe it.
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If God exists, where does that leave atheists?[/quote]
In the same place as you are if that God turns out to be Shiva or Allah. Or a god that humanity simply hasn't come up with yet.
If he doesn’t where does that leave believers?
Depends if they believe in the right god, off course. Considering the amount of potential gods they COULD believe in, there's about 99.99% chance that they're in the same place as atheists.
I'll leave you to answer that.....
Hahahaha. Fantastic. The not-so-hidden threat with some Pascal's Wager sauce on top.
Awesome.
