Bob the Unbeliever
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What myth have I claimed is NOT (sic!) a myth? Where?
your bible/torah/whatever "holey" book you think is god-inspired.
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What myth have I claimed is NOT (sic!) a myth? Where?
Who? Where?
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You have nowhere shown that "the 'christian bible' was fabricated by Constantine's committee," nor can you show where Carrier, who knows better, has made such a silly claim.
I have said that the premise of the OP is incorrect, that Constantine had nothing to do with establishing any biblical canon and that Nicaea was primarily concerned with addressing Arianism. Where exactly am I wrong?
Judges 1:27-36
Council of Nicaea | Christianity [325]
Constantine I | Biography, Accomplishments, Death, & Facts
You have yet to display anything resembling reason.
That wasn't your point, as you made a great song and dance of emphasising earlier. Moving the goalposts is at least preferable to denying reality though, so it's a start.
Unfortunately, you are still wrong with even this new point though as there wasn't an Official Christian Bible™ after what you term 'Constantine's fabrication committee'.
No. You had a variety of sources, many of which were almost universally accepted as authentic along with others that there was some disagreement about.
Personally, I don't care as I was discussing your historical illiteracy and inability to understand even your own sources, rather than Divine Providence
There still isn't an Official Christian Bible™ 2000 years later, and even the Official Catholic Bible™ took much longer than 300 years to become 'official' (although referring to this as a 'fabrication committee' would still be inane) .
If you are hostile to myths, why do you insist on spreading your own ones though?
You could make exactly the same arguments by using actual history rather than your imaginary, conspiracy theory version.
You wouldn't then look so foolish when you 'LOL' at people who, correctly, point out your basic errors and suggest you re-read your own sources (starting with the first 2 paragraphs...).
The Catholic Church wasn't some omnipotent totalitarian entity capable of controlling thought the world over and creating or erasing history with a click of its fingers.
Batu Khan ( Mongol Emperor) ( Trade Empire) took over eastern parts of Europe, during this time, trade cities appeared all over Europe, Novgorod, Riga , Visby, Danzig, Lubeck, Hampurg, Brugge and London , This European trade empire was known as the 'Golden Horde', which need a treasury, the Vatican ( treasurer of Batukhan) , it seems Innocent III succeeded Batu Khan .
This is why the 'Dragon' started to appear in European heraldry too, for example, the White Dragon in London ( Trade City), introduced through trade, East to West.
In other words, it was all about Money.
He can't possibly know that for sure because he wasn't there.
Strawman, much? Projecting something you WANT me to have said, instead of what I actually said.
The christian bible WOULD NOT EXIST without Constantine's Special Snowflake Committee creating it.
"universally accepted" <--- ONLY among god-infected, silly.
LMAO! Your "sources" was... WIKIPEDIA! Too funny!
OL! Another IRRATIONAL claim-- "Divine Providence"... too FUNNY!
Your worldview cannot stand up to: "PROVE IT".
Not since your silly religion's creation by Constantine himself.
Which only undermines YOUR claim!
It is cute when the Irrational attempt to "council" someone who isn't.
Please quote the relevant sections.Your links support my statement: The christian bible WOULD NOT EXIST without Constantine's Special Snowflake Committee creating it.
So either the Bible was miraculously given to the Church by Heaven on day one, or it's a total fabrication? False dichotomy much.Which pretty much proves to 100% that there is nothing godly about any of it.
Again, everything you think you know is wrong.What sort of god would stoop so low? What sort of irresponsible deity would allow such a chaotic method to fabricate it's "Ultimate Message"?
If you've been following so far (a big if) then you'll now understand why this isn't an argument at all.That is gross negligence beyond the pale-- and it was 300 years TOO LATE!
"But you're a Christian" isn't an argument. Condescension isn't an argument. Spamming the funny button and writing in caps isn't an argument. Lying about your own sources (or rather not even reading them) isn't an argument. Attempting to change your position halfway though a thread (as if no one would notice) isn't an argument. If you're just so much more rational than me why don't you start to show it?Oh, the IRONY of someone who's entire World View is based on an irrational god-claim (faith)
Complaining about someone who's worldview isn't faith-based.
The amusement is without limit-- I'll be saving this one to share.
We have to shout, when the reader has no brains to speak of.
The bible is and remains MYTH, until someone PROVES OTHERWISE.
And yes-- I am talking down to you-- why do you ask?