Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Of course not.What say you on the topic of the article then?
Should he face jail time for his "crime"?
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Of course not.What say you on the topic of the article then?
Should he face jail time for his "crime"?
Isn't it more disrespectful to veterans to threaten people with violence for exercising the very rights and freedoms that they fought for?Only a veteran, could do that if I saw it and not suffer. He has earned the right. Mouthy punks have not.
Resorting to violence to resolve mere disagreements should not be considered a valid "school of thought."
Brazil: Jail Term for Comedian Harms Free Speech
Free to speak, but not free of consequence. An insight into a future not far away.
Isn't it more disrespectful to veterans to threaten people with violence for exercising the very rights and freedoms that they fought for?
Well normally, yes. But it is the disrespect caused by the desecration that has the potential to bring about violence. Not the excercising of the right itself. So that had to be taken into consideration.
Answer me this; how can you value the flag if you don't value what the flag represents? Perhaps you should have Mr. Krabs play his violin for them?Is it a disagreement or disrespect though?
To a veteran seeing someone desecrate the flag after the horrors they faced serving the country, it might as well be a slap in the face. So I could understand a veteran reacting this way. This doesn't make the veteran immune to an assault charge though. So there's that.
Interesting. That sounds an awful lot like the "easily offended snowflakes" that conservatives snark about.
Answer me this; how can you value the flag if you don't value what the flag represents?
Slight diffence.
The young people you speak of are generally middle-high income sheltered young people who have done nothing to contribute to society other complain about how unfair it is, to them.
Let see, ah here we go. This young woman, had her Instagram account removed, and now her life is ruined because she is and I quote her, "I am worthless and have no value, I am not cut out to work a 9-5 job".
Poor thing.....bless her heart.
Veterans go to war to so that others do not have to. They witnessed their friends grotesquely injured/maimed/killed. They got grotesquely injured/maiimed/killed themselves. Let's not forget to mention PTSD.
So it's understandable to see why a veteran would be upset when someone desecrates the flag. Especially someone when that someone who desecrated it have done nothing to benefit society at all.
And by burning/desecrating it represents a rejection of its value.
Kinda hypocritical to reject its values then expect the values it represents to protect you from the consequences of desecrating it.
Not only bite the hand that feeds, but also hide behind it for protection!
It's no more hypocritical than wanting to repress or retaliate, and the only thing it "bites" is people's fee-fees.
Veterans go to war to so that others do not have to. They witnessed their friends grotesquely injured/maimed/killed. They got grotesquely injured/maiimed/killed themselves. Let's not forget to mention PTSD.
So it's understandable to see why a veteran would be upset when someone desecrates the flag. Especially when that someone who desecrated it has done nothing to benefit society at all.
So you're ok with people being fired and harassed for saying something non-pc.
You're ok with a comedian being locked up for protesting by wiping a letter on his bits.
But we have to protect the people who protest a flag by burning/desecrating it.
Gotcha
Notice any inconsistencies?
Brazil: Jail Term for Comedian Harms Free Speech
Free to speak, but not free of consequence. An insight into a future not far away.
It's both understandable and their right.
However, there are limits to what actions they can take legally based on 'being upset', justified or not.
The only inconsistency I notice is between your strawman and reality, because I never said that people should be harassed, fired*, or jailed for saying anything offensive/non-"pc". Why would you assume that was my position?
*Unless it was on the job or while representing their employer.
Noted
If you're ok with someone suffering consequences because they were upset by a comment. Then why are you not ok with a vet, or anyone else really, being upset when a flag is desecrated? I don't see much of a difference from your point of view.
Unless you deem one offense greater than the other.
What is it you think I'm "not okay" with?
That is what I'm trying to figure out. Where you draw the line at.