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Clouds are dying planets?!

Willamena

Willamena

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Clouds in our atmosphere are made of water vapour. Clouds of debris and radiation in galaxies are dying planets. Both are called "clouds" because they are made of small particles that obscure an observer's vision of what is behind them.
 
kadzbiz

kadzbiz

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Willamena said:
Clouds in our atmosphere are made of water vapour. Clouds of debris and radiation in galaxies are dying planets. Both are called "clouds" because they are made of small particles that obscure an observer's vision of what is behind them.
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I can't expand on this - it's a good answer.
 
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S-word

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Willamena said:
Clouds in our atmosphere are made of water vapour. Clouds of debris and radiation in galaxies are dying planets. Both are called "clouds" because they are made of small particles that obscure an observer's vision of what is behind them.
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It was from such a cloud (Oort cloud) that the waters were divided in the creation of our solar system. As the cloud of divided elements condensed, the dry land or planets were formed. The cloud continied to condense until nuclear fussion began, and our sun was formed, reflecting its light from the planets and moons in the vast heavenly expanse between the waters above and the waters below.
 
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S-word

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painted wolf said:
Aren't the 'clouds' in space the remnants of dead stars not planets?
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painted wolf said:
wa:do
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Yes, out in intersellar space there are many great clouds such as the Crab Nebuli, which are the residue of super Nova'. At the centre of those clouds is the black Hole into which a percentage of the enormous mass of the star had collapsed as it imploded upon itself. This great gravitational foce anchors the cloud in space and is the force that helps to form the young stars that we see in the birth of a new galactic body.

But there also remains clouds within the galactic body after it has formed, such as the Oort cloud in our Milky Way galaxy, from which the elements were divided in the creation of our solar system.
 
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painted wolf

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
Not all Nebula have a black hole at the center... not all dead stars become black holes.

The Oort Cloud is a collection of rocky debris and even less 'cloud like' than a nebula. It's all the junk that was unable to come together to form a significant body of its own.

wa:do
 
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S-word

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painted wolf said:
Not all Nebula have a black hole at the center... not all dead stars become black holes.
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painted wolf said:

The Oort Cloud is a collection of rocky debris and even less 'cloud like' than a nebula. It's all the junk that was unable to come together to form a significant body of its own.

wa:do
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Correct old mate, not all Nebula have a black hole at the centre. Some stars that super Nova, do not have the required mass to form a black hole, and the gravitational force can only crush the percentage that was not blown off to form the Nebulous cloud, into a Neutron star, which can at times exhibit similar qualities as those associated with a black hole.

As with the Oort cloud from which the elements for the formation of our Solar system were divided, you are correct in stating that it is a collection of dirty rocky debris (in comet form,) but nonetheless it is still defined as a cloud.
 
painted wolf

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
Not all of the Oort Cloud is in comet form... much of it is just rock, like Pluto and the other rocky sub-worlds. Much of it is high iron meteoritic material.
Like the asteroids in the asteroid belt.

There is no clean divide between the Oort cloud and the rest of the solar system.
Again, Pluto wanders well into both territories as do several other objects.

The Oort cloud is a "cloud" in the same way a Hippo is a "horse"... it's poetic.

wa:do
 
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S-word

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painted wolf said:
Not all of the Oort Cloud is in comet form... much of it is just rock, like Pluto and the other rocky sub-worlds. Much of it is high iron meteoritic material.
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painted wolf said:
Like the asteroids in the asteroid belt.

There is no clean divide between the Oort cloud and the rest of the solar system.
Again, Pluto wanders well into both territories as do several other objects.

The Oort cloud is a "cloud" in the same way a Hippo is a "horse"... it's poetic.

wa:do
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I believe that if you care to study the subject in greater detail, you will find that the majority of objects in the Oort Cloud are largely composed of ices, such as water, ammonia, and methane.

Pluto’s surface is thought to be composed of more than 98% nitrogen ice, with traces of methane and carbon monoxide, with a core of rock and ice.

But this will either be confirmed or rejected after 2015, when the “New Horizon Spacecraft” is expected to arrive there.
 
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