Chicago Teachers Union group’s trip to Venezuela, praise of socialist leader slammed as ‘propaganda

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The recent trip to Venezuela by a group calling itself a Chicago Teachers Union delegation has upset some union members and expats who question the point of the tour and take issue with the group’s praise of the country’s disputed government.

Chicago Teachers Union group’s trip to Venezuela, praise of socialist leader slammed as ‘propaganda tour’

...So what's your opinion on the trip? Propaganda, or what?

 

[PruePhillip]

The recent trip to Venezuela by a group calling itself a Chicago Teachers Union delegation has upset some union members and expats who question the point of the tour and take issue with the group’s praise of the country’s disputed government.

Chicago Teachers Union group’s trip to Venezuela, praise of socialist leader slammed as ‘propaganda tour’

...So what's your opinion on the trip? Propaganda, or what?

I feel so sad for the American people.
They are caught between the likes of Donald Trump and the likes of the
hard Left who are taking over the Democrat Party.

 

[Enoch07]

The recent trip to Venezuela by a group calling itself a Chicago Teachers Union delegation has upset some union members and expats who question the point of the tour and take issue with the group’s praise of the country’s disputed government.

Chicago Teachers Union group’s trip to Venezuela, praise of socialist leader slammed as ‘propaganda tour’

...So what's your opinion on the trip? Propaganda, or what?

There is a reason why these kind people are referred to as "useful idiots". Hopefully the day never comes when these folks realize that they are the ones that gets the first bullet (from their own socialist/communist regime they help create).

 

[PruePhillip]

There is a reason why these kind people are referred to as "useful idiots". Hopefully the day never comes when these folks realize that they are the ones that gets the first bullet (from their own socialist/communist regime they help create).

There's some sense of grim satisfaction when I read of Stalin's purges
being aimed at his own party. He disposed of all those who helped to
create the Bolshevik party.
And this wasn't really a Stalin thing, or a Mao thing etc.. It's a totalitarian
thing - and this is what totalitarian leaders do: rule totally.

 

[Cooky]

Looks like nobody here is willing to justify the "trip". I suppose that's a good thing.

 

[Nakosis]

The recent trip to Venezuela by a group calling itself a Chicago Teachers Union delegation has upset some union members and expats who question the point of the tour and take issue with the group’s praise of the country’s disputed government.

Chicago Teachers Union group’s trip to Venezuela, praise of socialist leader slammed as ‘propaganda tour’

...So what's your opinion on the trip? Propaganda, or what?

They shouldn't have represented themselves as something they are not.

But... perhaps that is what socialists do.

 

[Shad]

The recent trip to Venezuela by a group calling itself a Chicago Teachers Union delegation has upset some union members and expats who question the point of the tour and take issue with the group’s praise of the country’s disputed government.

Chicago Teachers Union group’s trip to Venezuela, praise of socialist leader slammed as ‘propaganda tour’

...So what's your opinion on the trip? Propaganda, or what?

Bunch of glorified baby sitters being led by the nose. All need to have their contract terminated for being incompetent.

 

[PruePhillip]

"Cultural Marxism" is a nazi conspiracy theory. Rebranded "Cultural Bolshevism" from the last century.

Horkheimer quote is also very fake.

None of the right wingers have pointed this out so far, guess things are going downhill indeed.

Really? I won't dispute this as I don't know.
But it's highly believable because it's going on today.
Look up the Frankfurt School.

 

[Father Heathen]

Of course it's propaganda. I don't think anyone sincere would use Venezuela as an example of successful socialism, considering how it's been an unstable ****show for a while.

 

[Glaurung]

And this wasn't really a Stalin thing, or a Mao thing etc.. It's a totalitarian
thing - and this is what totalitarian leaders do: rule totally.

The keys needed to gain power and the keys needed to maintain power are rarely the same. Any competent dictator must purge redundant keys.

 

[Woberts]

Good. Hopefully the trip will help clear their minds from the never ending barrage of bourgeois propaganda.

 

[PruePhillip]

The keys needed to gain power and the keys needed to maintain power are rarely the same. Any competent dictator must purge redundant keys.

Certainly hope you aren't endorsing these killers.

 

[Glaurung]

Certainly hope you aren't endorsing these killers.

Not at all. I was referencing this:

 

[PruePhillip]

Not at all. I was referencing this:

That's a seriously smart video.
I have sent it to others.
Thank you.

 

[PruePhillip]

I've studied critical theory and the Frankfurt school. It's nothing like the insidious cultural Marxist plot that the conspiracy theorists claim. It was a university focused around working class politics that was singled out by Nazi's because it was run by jews.

The theory has anti-Semitic origins.
Search rationalwiki cultural Marxism on google

Depends upon your perspective as to whether something is "insidious" or not.
I find the whole Postmodern culture insidious as it proclaims there is no truth
but its own - and sees all the tenants, canons and values of Western civilization
as The Enemy. Study Foucault and Derrida and you wouldn't get that impression
at all.

 

[sooda]

The recent trip to Venezuela by a group calling itself a Chicago Teachers Union delegation has upset some union members and expats who question the point of the tour and take issue with the group’s praise of the country’s disputed government.

Chicago Teachers Union group’s trip to Venezuela, praise of socialist leader slammed as ‘propaganda tour’

...So what's your opinion on the trip? Propaganda, or what?

NO homeless people. That's interesting. Sounds like a tempest n a teapot.

 

[PruePhillip]

Foucault and Derrida are anti-marxist and Marxists are against postmodernism.

The fact that postmodernists proclaims that "the values of western civilization" are false, they aren't really being deceptive about what their stance.

It's tricky. Many humanity students in American campuses champion liberal values.
But through "trigger warnings", "disinvitation" and shutting down dissent through the
instruments of "racism, sexism, white supremacy, homophobia, Capitalism" etc..they
are really undermining Western liberalism. We are becoming tribal all over again, and
hating "the other" in the name of "loving the other."
Marx is very much a tribal thing - the Collective, the enemy (ie Mills, Voltaire etc,) the
other, permanent revolution etc..
Philosophies that see society as nothing more than power structure are:
1 - imbued with hate
2 - want power for themselves

 

[Milton Platt]

The recent trip to Venezuela by a group calling itself a Chicago Teachers Union delegation has upset some union members and expats who question the point of the tour and take issue with the group’s praise of the country’s disputed government.

Chicago Teachers Union group’s trip to Venezuela, praise of socialist leader slammed as ‘propaganda tour’

...So what's your opinion on the trip? Propaganda, or what?

I think it is inconsequential in the larger scope of things.

 

[PruePhillip]

You really have no idea about Marx lol

Marx's critique of capitalist society is not moralistic at all. It's a scientific investigation into the creation of value and the relationship of different classes to production and one another.

Marx brought attention to many false dogmas of liberalism and liberal analytical methods.

I don't understand why right wingers are so uppity about trigger warnings. When its content warnings on the television they are fine, but when they are about sexual assault and directed at people with PTSD they aren't?

Encountered a new one today in the Australian newspaper, "mobbing"
An American professor was "mobbed" by a number of his colleges writing
a piece against him. He was called "racist" and lost his position.
He stated there was no proof of any "racism"
and no evidence of any "racism"
but he was mobbed, he said, because of his politics. In other words he
had the temerity to not toe the line on ideological issues. This says a lot
about what will happen to the students of these universities as they enter
mainstream society and gain positions of influence.

Ever read John Stewart Mill? He had a lot to say about the freedom to say
what you believe. He was a classic liberal - today "liberals" tear down his
philosophy. I think liberalism is dead now, done in by liberals.

Cultural Marxism has all sorts of moral pretensions.

We have a new crisis in Australia now with "transgender" medical issues.
Not only the issue of medically treating children but issues surrounding the
safety of some of the transgendering drugs involved. There's going to be a
whole generation of this now - and it will be the stuff of documentaries in
decades to come, with future youth raging at what "society" did to so many
confused kids.

ps Marx's "scientific investigation"
There used to be this Soviet era joke, along the line that if Marx really WAS
a scientist (which he wasn't) then he would have experimented on lab rats
first.