Gave victory to the Union soldiers and government.Did what?
Good-Ole-Rebel
Tom
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Gave victory to the Union soldiers and government.Did what?
Good-Ole-Rebel
I agree with his decision. We can't erase history, we can only learn from it.
However if people want to try to erase history by removing anything that has to do with slavery, IMO we should start with the president's that owned slaves that we honor with statues, birthday holidays, put them on money, etc. And if we are going to do it, do it all the way. Let's do away with everything else that is a reminder of slavery which would include many afro-american things as well.
Again we can't erase history, we can only learn from it.
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Museums require intention from the viewers.History can be maintained in other ways such as museums.
Museums require intention from the viewers.
Public displays find the inadvertent ones.
Notice something interesting?
It's some of our liberal friends here who oppose
public display of uncomfortable history. They want
it shielded....requiring effort to discover it. Now, I
know they're not opposing free speech...they just
don't want too much of it assaulting our sensitive
sensibilities. That seems wrong.
Are you for real?! You know the KKK hates Catholics, too, right?
Students are to be educated, but then to not be reminded.I never advocated shielding people. Education can easily fill the gap thus all or at least all public education students are exposed to history. A give and take if you will.
Students are to be educated, but then to not be reminded.
We must agree to disagree that this is the best way.
There should be.Works for WW2 fine. There are not a lot of statues of Hitler around yet people still know who Hitler was.
That's true personally I think we should remove all manner of historical icons including the good guys as well as the bad guys from all government owned property.History can be maintained in other ways such as museums.
So, you can't think of anyone to scrub from the public statue list except black people?That's true personally I think we should remove all manner of historical icons including the good guys as well as the bad guys from all government owned property.
And yes that includes Martin Luther King , Harriet Tubman, George Washington Carver, and everyone else.
Total neutrality.
The north was doing quite well around the time of the Civil War.
Manufacturing technology was advancing rapidly, with standardization,
precision, steam power (replacing water), mass production, & automation
advancing rapidly.
Gave victory to the Union soldiers and government.
Tom
There are regular depressions in generally strong economies.See the 'Panic of 1857'. It affected the North largely , not the South. This forced their dependence on the South.
Good-Ole-Rebel
There are regular depressions in generally strong economies.
They recover.
And wasn't the Civil War sometime after 1857?
That's the whole reason why I purposely listed black men and women. It strikes right into entire premise as to why the monuments are being removed. The whole thing is about racism right? Racism isn't relegated just to bad people in history which is what the point is I think @Good-Ole-Rebel is making here.So, you can't think of anyone to scrub from the public statue list except black people?
Curious, that.
Tom
Didn't know I worked for free and when someone tells me to.It is the way it is. Humans everywhere are subjugated and enslaved. Wherever you live you are a slave to that government. Or you are a slave to your employer. You may say, yes, but I can leave. Well, yes, but then you have to find another slave owner. Another government to live under. Another employer to serve.
After a war takes place the loser becomes slaves to the winner. Oh they may get treated alright, but their whole way of life has now changed. It is the way it is. And it will never change.
To your question, a simple yes or not does not answer. It is like asking, 'do you think it is ethically wrong to kill someone?'
Good-Ole-Rebel
See post #(85). When yall going to take down that Lincoln Memorial?
Good-Ole-Rebel
That's true personally I think we should remove all manner of historical icons including the good guys as well as the bad guys from all government owned property.
The northern economy had stabilized by 1859.Are you really asking? Not long after.
The Dred Scott decision affected the Panic of 1857 for the North. And that decision, as a Supreme Court decison, would affect the U.S. for a long time. Meaning it had lasting affects upon the North's economy.
The industrialized North was affected. The South was not affected in a bad way.
Good-Ole-Rebel