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Can the soul die?

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Frank Goad

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Trailblazer said:
No, the soul cannot die because the soul is immortal. Only physical things die. The soul is not physical so it cannot die. Any scriptures that say that a soul dies mean that the soul will not not have eternal life, but that soul will still continue to exist forever in the spiritual world. For example:

Matthew 16:24-26 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

Jesus was saying to deny our selfish desires, things we want that are not of God, and to follow in His Way. For whoever will live for self shall lose his eternal life, but whoever will sacrifice his life for the sake of Jesus shall gain eternal life. So if we live for self and the worldly things we gain the world but we lose our soul because we lose eternal life. Eternal life refers to a “quality” of life, nearness to God, which according to Jesus comes from believing in Him and following in His way.
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What about this?:
Matthew 10:28
King James Version

28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
 
nPeace

nPeace

Veteran Member
Frank Goad said:
What about this?:
Matthew 10:28
King James Version

28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
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What about Genesis 2:7.
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Frank Goad said:
What about this?:
Matthew 10:28
King James Version

28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
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Destroying the soul in hell means that soul will nit have eternal life. That soul will be 'as dead' but it will still continue to exist. Souls that sin become a victim of self and passion and will sink in their depths... That means they are in a hellish state of existence.

“Thou hast asked Me concerning the nature of the soul. Know, verily, that the soul is a sign of God, a heavenly gem whose reality the most learned of men hath failed to grasp, and whose mystery no mind, however acute, can ever hope to unravel. It is the first among all created things to declare the excellence of its Creator, the first to recognize His glory, to cleave to His truth, and to bow down in adoration before Him. If it be faithful to God, it will reflect His light, and will, eventually, return unto Him. If it fail, however, in its allegiance to its Creator, it will become a victim to self and passion, and will, in the end, sink in their depths...”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 158-159
 
Evangelicalhumanist

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Altfish said:
I think the first question is ...

Dos the soul exist?

Only then can we worry about it dying.
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Not quite, actually. Things exist that don't die -- rocks, card tables and so forth. The real first question is "is the soul alive?"

I'd love to see that one answered.
 
Thief

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Frank Goad said:
If you look at Ezekiel 18:20 in the kjv.It says the soul that sins it shall die.It doesn't say he or she will die.It says it shall die(referring to the soul).Also in James 5:20 it says the exact opposite.
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we are assembled

we cannot be disassembled

it is written.....Fear not anyone who would harm the flesh
rather......Fear He who is able to rend the soul
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
cataway said:
very much on earth
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Never ever on earth will anyone live forever. That is a complete fantasy and it is contradicted by the Bible.
What JWs believe is in complete contradiction to the Bible that JWs say they believe in.

John 14:2
King James Version

2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Jesus Christ prepares a place in heaven for His own, those who have come to Him in faith, and the Holy Spirit prepares the redeemed on earth for their place in heaven. Revelation 7:9 tells us that there will be a "great multitude in heaven that no one could number" all standing before the throne. Here, again, the imagery is of multitudes together, not living separately in different mansions.
Do we receive mansions in heaven? | GotQuestions.org
 
Evangelicalhumanist

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Thief said:
go look in the mirror
is your head......a rock
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Well, take up neurosurgery, then when you've located a living soul that is not living tissue -- you publish that and become the most famous person in history.

How much of that head you're looking at is "the soul" that you can't do without? There's a wealth of information available to you online that can show how just how much you can actually do without -- so which part is not the rock? Over to you, Dr. Vesalius.
 
We Never Know

We Never Know

No Slack
Frank Goad said:
If you look at Ezekiel 18:20 in the kjv.It says the soul that sins it shall die.It doesn't say he or she will die.It says it shall die(referring to the soul).Also in James 5:20 it says the exact opposite.
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In my opinion a persons spirit can be killed while they live on. As for a soul, what is a soul? How does it differ from a persons spirit?
 
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