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bruce lee over-hyped?
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sandy whitelinger
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I worked with tai chi master Daniel Lee for a number of years. Dan was Black Belt Magazine's Man of year back in the 80s. No slouch.
Dan studied with Master Lee in his famed LA studio. He said Bruce was the real deal.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Thief
Rogue Theologian
so....I bought the book.....Tao of Jeet Kune Do
Bruce Lee was said to have grown up where the fight was always too real
you could die learning to live
my old neighborhood wasn't quite that bad.....but the city tore it down to get rid of it
if the renderings of his book are truly his script....
he was indeed.....all that he seemed to be
Bruce Lee was said to have grown up where the fight was always too real
you could die learning to live
my old neighborhood wasn't quite that bad.....but the city tore it down to get rid of it
if the renderings of his book are truly his script....
he was indeed.....all that he seemed to be
Wu Wei
ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
The ping pong video is fake, as for the other one he had a lot of skill
Wu Wei
ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
bruce lee over-hyped? Yes and no...he is certainly over sold by many who are not JKD folks or pretending to be JKD folks or are kinda sorta JKD Folks. Not a whole lot of hype from actual JKD Folks though.
I trained his style JKD, briefly, in the Jerry Poteet line and it is real, it is aggressive and those guys know how to fight. Is the most awesome, best martial art in the land....no...but then no martial art is. I have trained a lot of different styles over the years and if I were a younger man with less infirmities I would train JKD. Using drills it is an easy and quick way to learn how to defend yourself effectively. But with that said there are most definitely 2 sides of the JKD fence from Bruce's first generation students. Those that believe they should teach exactly what Bruce taught them (Jerry Poteet for example) and those that feel that they should teach based more on JKD philosophy of take what is useful and discard what is not (the Dan Inosanto side of the fence). IMO neither side is better than the other, it is just what you want to learn and what your take is on JKD. For me, I preferred the what Bruce Lee actually taught side of the fence.
I trained his style JKD, briefly, in the Jerry Poteet line and it is real, it is aggressive and those guys know how to fight. Is the most awesome, best martial art in the land....no...but then no martial art is. I have trained a lot of different styles over the years and if I were a younger man with less infirmities I would train JKD. Using drills it is an easy and quick way to learn how to defend yourself effectively. But with that said there are most definitely 2 sides of the JKD fence from Bruce's first generation students. Those that believe they should teach exactly what Bruce taught them (Jerry Poteet for example) and those that feel that they should teach based more on JKD philosophy of take what is useful and discard what is not (the Dan Inosanto side of the fence). IMO neither side is better than the other, it is just what you want to learn and what your take is on JKD. For me, I preferred the what Bruce Lee actually taught side of the fence.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
that legend of a stand off......the one where Lee got hurt
that event caused a change in his style
the story i got.....the local orientals did not approve of the art taught to (Chinese derogatory)
they sent a champion to shut down Lee's teaching
the fight lasted 3minutes
afterward he decided the classic moves were too 'round about'
not direct enough
hence Jeet Kune Do
but I say.....his son Brandon
carried the art sooooooo very well
(I think the movie was called Rapid Fire)
Wu Wei
ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
Stan Lee
Bruce Lee
And just cause you asked so nicely...a bonus....Tommy Lee
And Robert E Lee
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
Stan Lee rules.
ronki23
Well-Known Member
He was a pioneer but things have evolved. I'll give credit to him for beating some people up in Hong Kong as a youth and for winning a high school boxing tournament but he's not that physically strong or muscular, especially when it comes to lifting weights. If you want modern inspiration look up George's St Pierre, Gene LeBell or even Dan Gable; all 3 are still alive.
By the way, Jackie Chan used to fight; once he was a bouncer in a nightclub and he got into a fight. A day later he thought he had bone sticking out of his fist only to realize it was the other guy's tooth.
By the way, Jackie Chan used to fight; once he was a bouncer in a nightclub and he got into a fight. A day later he thought he had bone sticking out of his fist only to realize it was the other guy's tooth.
Wu Wei
ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
The story varies depending on who you hear it from.... the only thing that seems to be agreed upon is; Chinese were unhappy Bruce was teaching non-Chinese so they brought in Wong Jack Man to fight Bruce Lee. There was a fight and after that Bruce Lee developed Jeet Kune Do. As for the injury, I believe that is a thing from the movie. Lee got hurt, but it was from working out, not the fight. I do not remember if it was prior to or after the fight. Brandon was good, also the guy who played Bruce Lee in the movie "Dragon:The Bruce Lee Story". Jason Scott Lee. was pretty much a dancer, not a martial artist, when he got the part, but today he is a JKD teacher who learned from Poteet.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Not Bruce Lee.
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
Much better.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Stan Lee
Bruce Lee
And just cause you asked so nicely...a bonus....Tommy Lee
And Robert E Lee
I can definitely see the family resemblance.
Daemon Sophic
Avatar in flux
It’s too bad about the ping-pong video being a fake.
I worked with a classmate of Lee. He told me that as a young man, Bruce Lee certainly had an incredible amount of skill, as well as drive to learn more....to a fault.
He apparently was a bit of a punk (per my colleague). Bruce would travel to shady parts of Seattle, and pick fights with other young men “in order to practice his fighting skills”.
I worked with a classmate of Lee. He told me that as a young man, Bruce Lee certainly had an incredible amount of skill, as well as drive to learn more....to a fault.
He apparently was a bit of a punk (per my colleague). Bruce would travel to shady parts of Seattle, and pick fights with other young men “in order to practice his fighting skills”.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
I shady parts of (town).....and pick fights with other young men “in order to practice his fighting skills”.
Sounds like the movie......Fight Club
and my old neighborhood
people you don't know would approach....not say a word....and then
BANG! right in the eye ....as if trying to knock me down
almost lost an eye over that crap
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Yes in much of the legendary lore built-up around Lee.
Practically speaking, Bruce Lee was an accomplished street fighter before he was famous, and is still among the unparalleled Martial artists who had ever lived.