Atrocity

[Shadow Wolf]

I’m aware of mental illness in good people like schizophrenia or bipolar etc. But I also think a rapist Is mentally ill. We just think differently. It’s all good

No, it's not good, because you are misusing broad clinical diagnosis to inappropriately explain and dismiss the behaviors of people, despite your claims not matching reality. And doing it to ignore the real issues, mainly how religion provides ample inspiration and justification for many atrocities people commit.
Mental illness isn't a subjective term like "feels good" to be casually thrown around. It is damaging, it is destructive, it is cruel, it is dehumanizing, it does set mental health care back when every Tom, Dick, and Sally plays make believe to pretend they are qualified to diagnose and apply labels of mental illness.

 

[King Phenomenon]

No, it's not good, because you are misusing broad clinical diagnosis to inappropriately explain and dismiss the behaviors of people, despite your claims not matching reality. And doing it to ignore the real issues, mainly how religion provides ample inspiration and justification for many atrocities people commit.
Mental illness isn't a subjective term like "feels good" to be casually thrown around. It is damaging, it is destructive, it is cruel, it is dehumanizing, it does set mental health care back when every Tom, Dick, and Sally plays make believe to pretend they are qualified to diagnose and apply labels of mental illness.

Ok they’re not well then
Is that ok?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Ok they’re not well then
Is that ok?

No, because we know where you started and want to go with this.
It demonizes the mentally ill (just like how they are blamed for gun violence), it portrays mental illness as what it isn't, and does do real harm to those with mental illnesses who get unfairly lumped in with deranged religious fanatics, school shooters, mass murderers, and other violent people.

 

[King Phenomenon]

No, because we know where you started and want to go with this.
It demonizes the mentally ill (just like how they are blamed for gun violence), it portrays mental illness as what it isn't, and does do real harm to those with mental illnesses who get unfairly lumped in with deranged religious fanatics, school shooters, mass murderers, and other violent people.

Well there’s all kinds of the mental illnesses. I’m sure doctors could find one for them

 

[firedragon]

There are religious terrorists committing atrocities all over the world.

Religious terrorism - Wikipedia.

But the ww2 killed 50 million people. Not religious, but political. So maybe you should put some focus on that and some history.

 

[firedragon]

I’ve heard people on here say religion is the causes all kinds of atrocities. Are there any atrocities going on in the name of religion today? If so what are they and what religion is responsible? Also what atrocities happened in the past that you know of in the name of religion and again what religion was responsible? Thanx

It is estimated that only around 7% of all wars ever recorded in our known history were motivated by religion.

 

[McBell]

But the ww2 killed 50 million people. Not religious, but political. So maybe you should put some focus on that and some history.

Good idea, but since THIS thread is specifically about religious atrocities...

You did read the OP right?

 

[McBell]

It is estimated that only around 7% of all wars ever recorded in our known history were motivated by religion.

Source please.

 

[firedragon]

Good idea, but since THIS thread is specifically about religious atrocities...

You did read the OP right?

I think u should read it

 

[firedragon]

Source please.

encyclopaedia of wars by Charles and Allen

 

[Pete in Panama]

I’ve heard people on here say religion is the causes all kinds of atrocities. Are there any atrocities going on in the name of religion today? If so what are they and what religion is responsible? Also what atrocities happened in the past that you know of in the name of religion and again what religion was responsible? Thanx

It's easy to sit back & say "sure it happens all the time" w/o any documentation --we just know it's true becuase well, it's just true.

Back on the planet Earth the most obvious religious persecution, torture, and murder takes place on the broadest scale where atheism is the national religion. North Korea, Cuba, even China for starters.

 

[McBell]

encyclopaedia of wars by Charles and Allen

Thank you

 

[King Phenomenon]

It's easy to sit back & say "sure it happens all the time" w/o any documentation --we just know it's true becuase well, it's just true.

Back on the planet Earth the most obvious religious persecution, torture, and murder takes place on the broadest scale where atheism is the national religion. North Korea, Cuba, even China for starters.

Atheists being the wrong doers or the minority of religious being the wrong doers?

 

[1213]

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Promoting snake oils and ideas that obstruct, hinder and kill off critical thinking (like the so-called "'law' of attraction.")...

That sounds like mainstream media, drug companies and communistic cancel culture that tries to end freedom of speech and critical thinking. Perhaps religious people are not perfect, but the worst totalitarian fascists are the leaders of western regimes in my opinion.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Well there’s all kinds of the mental illnesses. I’m sure doctors could find one for them

No. That's not how it works.
Again, this diminishes health care when you say something like "oh well, there's enough labels they'll find something." Garbage like that doesn't help at all when someone insists something like clinical depression isn't real, someone can just "snap out of it," or that the entire practice is rubbish because they assume what you do, and anyone that seems odd has a mental illness and everyone will eventually be able to be diagnosed with one if you keep at it.
You aren't a mental health professional, stop trying to act like it.

Back on the planet Earth the most obvious religious persecution, torture, and murder takes place on the broadest scale where atheism is the national religion. North Korea, Cuba, even China for starters.

What about North Korea is atheist? The leaders have a divine mythology behind them, they are at the center of everything, and really it's a pseudo-theocracy.
What about the Crusades, Inquisitions, witch burnings, slavery, discrimination, and other things that have been going on at the hands of the religious for thousands upon thousands of years?
And where have atheists been killing and repressing in the name of atheism? No where.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That sounds like mainstream media, drug companies and communistic cancel culture that tries to end freedom of speech and critical thinking. Perhaps religious people are not perfect, but the worst totalitarian fascists are the leaders of western regimes in my opinion.

That offers no evidence.
Many conservative Christians in America have special privileges to refuse to take their sick child to the doctor, and instead resort to strictly prayer as a cure. That doesn't work. It has gave America and the states that allow it a shameful and embarrassing reputation as the bodies of children who needlessly suffered and died continue to pile up.

 

[McBell]

What about North Korea is atheist? The leaders have a divine mythology behind them, they are at the center of everything, and really it's a pseudo-theocracy.
What about the Crusades, Inquisitions, witch burnings, slavery, discrimination, and other things that have been going on at the hands of the religious for thousands upon thousands of years?
And where have atheists been killing and repressing in the name of atheism? No where.

Some people have the belief that not-Christian = atheist.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Some people have the belief that not-Christian = atheist.

It is always eye rolling/funny/frustrating when a theist such as a neo-Pagan criticizes Christianity and then a Christian goes on the defense by beginning "you religious and god hating atheists!!!"

 

[King Phenomenon]

No. That's not how it works.
Again, this diminishes health care when you say something like "oh well, there's enough labels they'll find something." Garbage like that doesn't help at all when someone insists something like clinical depression isn't real, someone can just "snap out of it," or that the entire practice is rubbish because they assume what you do, and anyone that seems odd has a mental illness and everyone will eventually be able to be diagnosed with one if you keep at it.
You aren't a mental health professional, stop trying to act like it.

What about North Korea is atheist? The leaders have a divine mythology behind them, they are at the center of everything, and really it's a pseudo-theocracy.
What about the Crusades, Inquisitions, witch burnings, slavery, discrimination, and other things that have been going on at the hands of the religious for thousands upon thousands of years?
And where have atheists been killing and repressing in the name of atheism? No where.

You win
I guess all or most people who have done dispicable things are 100% mentally healthy. Or perhaps they were really messed up on drugs or alcohol.

 

[Pete in Panama]

...What about North Korea is atheist? The leaders have a divine mythology...

Seems that everyone has their own fondly held beliefs & far be it from me to run into conflict w/ a cherished creed, it's just that most folks see it differently (from Wikipedia):

Irreligion in North Korea
Irreligion in North Korea is difficult to measure in the country as the country is officially designated as atheist. The North Korean state persecutes those who stray from the official state sponsored atheism and the Juche idea.