Atheists: If God existed would God……

[Truthseeker]

"Perform your duty equipoised, O Arjuna, abandoning all attachment to success or failure. Such equanimity is called yoga."

Is it your duty to be nasty? Sorry, I'm human.

 

[Truthseeker]

For me it was to please my wife that I read a book that changed the entire direction of my life.

Yes, I know.

 

[Truthseeker]

Your actions suggest otherwise.

You are not very logical, are you? I am gettng tired of this.

 

[Truthseeker]

Tell me, is it a general Bahai belief that the Bible is silly, or is Tb (who once wanted to burn the Christian Scriptures) an exception?

It is not a Baha'i belief that the Bible is silly. @TransmutingSoul said a belief derived from the Bible is silly. Use some reason.

 

[Truthseeker]

I quote your post: "Satyameva Jayate, nanritam" (Truth alone wins, not untruth).

She said both the world is silly. She also said the Bible is silly as a response to attacks from others. It was an emotional response. Surely you can understand.

 

[Truthseeker]

Did it again for ya....

You did just now? Where? It's invisible?

 

[Truthseeker]

Truth and facts are not important to some.

It's not important to you right now, or to Aup.

 

[Truthseeker]

Are you really denying you said this?
"The Baha'i Writings are expansive, more expansive than the silly Bible".

She did say that, but it was in response to your relentless attacks. What excuse do you have for being so mean to her?

 

[ppp]

Yeah, because I don't respond directly to her anymore, because it was too frustrating for me, I post things that are meant for the Baha'is while posting to others. Sorry, but I couldn't deal with her style of arguing or debating or whatever it is she thinks she is doing. But I like her threads and like what you and others have to say in those threads.

I don't blame you one bit.

 

[Truthseeker]

So I called the Bible silly once, big deal. You and other atheists have said much worse things about the Writings of Baha'u'llah over and over and over again.

Yes, and it was in response to relentless attacks. Don't people realize that when you do that the person will be human?

 

[Truthseeker]

No, Tony, I do not think it is best if Tb's irrational statements are 'left alone'. It is time she learned to think before she hits 'post reply'.

You should think first before hitting reply to your mean posts to her. Which is worse?

 

[Truthseeker]

So...
1. You say the Bible is silly.
2. Then you say that you did not say that the Bible is silly.
3. Then you say that you said that the Bible is silly.

How can we take you seriously, Tb?.

You are mean! mean! mean! Where did Jesus teach you that?

 

[Truthseeker]

You tried to hide the truth, and are now trying to create conflict between Christians and Bahais. And your goal is peace and brotherhood.
But when it comes to prophesies, you readily accept Bible. Munafiqun (opportunists, carpet baggers).

Your goal apparently is not peace and brotherhood at all times.

 

[Truthseeker]

You call it criticism; I call it encouraging you to think.

No, you are just being mean, and you are blind to that or covering it up.

 

[John53]

She is going through a hard time right now. She is also human like you.

Yes we are all human, some of us also have loved ones with health problems, some of us even have our own health problems. But most don't use that as an excuse for bad behaviour. You have no idea how hard I've tried to have rational friendly discussions but there's only so much a person can do. I accept my share of the fault, I doubt if the other party will accept any fault at all.

 

[John53]

Yes, and it was in response to relentless attacks. Don't people realize that when you do that the person will be human?

You should really get your facts straight. It was in response to a dictionary definition. How on earth is quoting a definition a relentless attack?

 

[CG Didymus]

It is unknown how many Manifestations have appeared on the Indian Subcontinent CG. In the Writings it says it will be up to future historians to sort out these questions. I would expectvthere to be more.

I expect them to be identified in many Nations amongst many peoples. No people were left without guidance, suited to the age and people it was given to.

Regards Tony

Well, you can call them manifestations if you want, but that is inconsistent with so many other religions. Some have several incarnations. Some have only one but several prophets. Then some religions have ways for ordinary men to pray and fast or meditate or means of attaining an enlightened state or to have a vision.

I hung out with Pentecostal Christians for a couple of years, and they had several people receive prophecies during that time. Personally, I think they were all fake. So again, it's unfortunate for the Baha'i Faith, if it happens to be true, that people in other cultures and religions faked so many things about religion. But even with Christianity, and what we have in the NT, there is so much misinformation. Like Satan and demon possession. Is it all just "symbolic" stories? I don't think so. I think that's what the writers believed. Although we giving TB a hard time, if the Baha'i Faith is true, the Bible and NT stories are silly.

If Jesus didn't rise from the dead, that story is the biggest fraud ever pulled off. If Jesus isn't who the NT says he is, and if he didn't do what it says he did, then why would anyone ever trust religious claims again? But if the NT is true, then it is Islam and the Baha'i Faith that are the frauds. Or there is spiritual truths in all these religions. But it's mixed in with a lot of legend and myth. But that's not what some religions claims. They claim that they have the truth and are the truth. And rational, skeptical people look at a religion like Christianity and are astounded that people can believe some of those things. People coming back to life, not just Jesus. People flying off into the sky. God speaking from heaven. Talking animals and so on.

And now we have the Baha'i Faith claiming its prophet is the promised one that all these religions talked about. God and the prophets in the prophets in those other religions don't sound real, and now Baha'is add another prophet, but more than a prophet, a manifestation of God. I'm with the atheists... to believe any of this stuff, there needs to be objective proof. Otherwise, people are just falling for the same unprovable claims that most all religions have made. We can take it on faith. But then faith in which religion? People in every religion feel and believe and can show us Scriptures why their religion is true. Then each religion can give us reasons why the other ones are wrong. Anyway, take care Tony, see you tomorrow.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Let up on her. @Trailblazer is having a hard time right now in her life. This is affecting what she is saying here. I won't tell you what is happening in her life, because she wants it to be private. I won't violate her trust.

Noted.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Is it your duty to be nasty? Sorry, I'm human.

I try to stick to truth. Why should you term it nasty?

 

[Aupmanyav]

She said both the world is silly. She also said the Bible is silly as a response to attacks from others. It was an emotional response. Surely you can understand.

I understand it all and I understand it very clearly. She made a mistake and now she is trying to cover it up. But as you said, I will let it go.