mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Yes, I have found out who I am and I do God differently than you, since I am not a Christian.
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Are you a liar?
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Yes, I have found out who I am and I do God differently than you, since I am not a Christian.
Elihoenai
Well-Known Member
Psalm 1:1-2
1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
Hebrews 10:9
9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
You put off the the Old Man/Old Life with the Old Covenant/Law of Moses. I asked this question before: How can the First Covenant/Old Covenant be taken away to establish the Second Covenant/New Covenant given that the First Covenant/Old Covenant is not practiced?
Saying that you see no Scriptural teaching that obligates to do Passover is Wrong Thinking. What happened to Delight in the Law?
Elihoenai
Well-Known Member
Is it a secret who you are? What Religious Belief do you subscribe to?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
I am religious in a philosophical sense, since my beliefs about objective reality are neither natural or supernatural and my understanding of God is also philosophical in that sense.
Redemptionsong
Well-Known Member
A Gentile is not required to become a Jew in order to become a follower of Jesus. Gentiles have a knowledge of righteousness based on religious and civil law, and on conscience.
The law (of Moses) is summed up by Jesus in the commandment to 'love God and thy neighbour'. The ritual that surrounds the moral law is a part of religious observance, but to my understanding is not an essential ingredient to life in Christ.
The life of the 'old man' is a life of outward appearance, but the life of the 'new man' is a life of inner knowledge and peace.
Elihoenai
Well-Known Member
There is a belief that there are only two Religious practices that exist. These are Left-Hand Path and Right-Hand Path Religion.
Left-hand path and right-hand path
In Western esotericism the Left-Hand Path and Right-Hand Path are the dichotomy between two opposing approaches to magic. This terminology is used in various groups involved in the occult and ceremonial magic. In some definitions, the Left-Hand Path is equated with malicious black magic or black shamanism, while the Right-Hand Path with benevolent white magic.[1]: 152 Other occultists have criticised this definition, believing that the Left–Right dichotomy refers merely to different kinds of working and does not necessarily connote good or bad magical actions.[1]: 176 Other practitioners state the difference between the two is that the desired outcome of the right is to be beside "God" and to serve him, while the left believe in self deification and bow to no one.
Left-hand path and right-hand path - Wikipedia
It appears that almost every religious person is practising the Left-Hand Path while only a handful is practising the Right-Hand Path.
Do you recognise and subscribe to any of these paths?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
No.
If you want to pinpoint me, I could belong to Unitarian Universalist Association | UUA.org even as an atheist and agnostic. But I couldn't belong to these Our Vision
Elihoenai
Well-Known Member
Hebrews 11:28
28 Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them.
Are you prepared to accept the possibility that your understanding might not be correct? You appear to have the false notion that keeping the Law of Moses/Law of Yahweh is alien to Faith. Keeping the Passover is a demonstration of Faith!
Elihoenai
Well-Known Member
Therefore, you are a Libertine practising Left-Hand Religious Path. Is that correct? Your profile also suggests that you are Socialist and Liberal.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
If that works for you, then okay with me. I wouldn't claim magic myself, since I am a skeptic. As for politics I am a Nordic social democrat. As for morals, I think you and I are to far apart due to religion, that I can explain that I am not a libertine.
Luchito Prays
Member
The main problem interpreting the word "judging" is causing true believers in the God committing sin when accepting the bad doings of sinners.
Take it this way. If you see your neighbor stealing, cheating on the spouse, being a homosexual, you can talk to him or her, and call him/her to repentance.
You can rebuke, reproach, repress, denounce, excoriate, objurgate him/her when you find a member of your assembly doing wrong.
Yes, feel free of doing it, tell them the plain truth, their souls and body will die, no exceptions.
Why you can do it freely without hesitation?
Because you are not condemning them. You are not giving them sentence to die or forgiveness or punishment.
You are just telling they are wrong and better for them to change, and such is not judging.
So, don't think you are doing wrong when you reprimand others because their bad actions, because Yeshu (Jesus) and the apostles did it, so you better do the same.
If you keep silence, you are the one who is going to be in trouble with the God, because He told you to spread His word and you have betrayed Him by keeping your mouth shout.
When is about the recognition of the messiah, denying him means for the apostle to be a lie.
I kind to disagree with that statement when the denial comes from a person who is not a believer of the God of the Bible and that Yeshu (Jesus) His son.
People who don't belong to Christian churches have the right of opinion. The words of the apostle appear to be send to members of the churches, whom at one moment disagree for some reason with the main point of the good news.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Careful, "libertine" is a pejorative and when it comes to morals the morals of atheists and other nones tend to be superior to those of most theists.
Hermit Philosopher
Selflessly here for you
Dear @Luchito Prays
While I do understand the dilemma one is faced with when witnessing the wrongdoings of another and, while I believe that approaching them in order to prevent them from doing someone else harm is both sound and admirable, I shall have to disagree with some of the tactics you put forward in your comment to me.
Rebuking, reproaching, repressing, denouncing, excoriating, objurgating, etc, a follow human being is certainly not what Jesus did and it is unlikely to save nor them, you or anyone else.
But yes, the issue of how to handle another’s wrongdoings (against others) is complex and does present one with a personal moral minefield. All the more reason to tread most carefully and watch oneself against judging another.
Humbly
Hermit
Elihoenai
Well-Known Member
2 Timothy 3:12
12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
Given that we are far apart due to my Religious Morals that would make you a Libertine. I'm an Ultra Christian Moral Conservative (nothing to do with party politics). Happy to say because of my ultra strict Religious Morals I'm on the receiving end of 24/7 Satanic Ritual Abuse.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Elihoenai
Well-Known Member
The only way an Atheist can have Superior Morals to the Religionist is due to the Religionist not practising True Religion. Billions of Religionist are not practising True Religion.
Tinker Grey
Wanderer
Apparently those that practice True Religion (tm) are exceedingly rare. People are people. The average religious person is no more moral than the average atheist.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Sorry, but that appears to be pure BS. You need to prove it, and the Bible cannot help you there unless you can prove that the Bible is reliable. No Christian has ever done that.
So go ahead.
Elihoenai
Well-Known Member
Okay. Hope you cope.
Exodus 15:3
3 The Lord is a man of war: the Lord is his name.
We more than cope through Yeshua Messiah/Jesus Christ. We want a War with the Satanists to fight Elohim's/God's battles. This war has been ongoing for thousands of years.