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We don't follow the law in order to be saved ,but are saved through faith in Jesus Christ alone,the obedience to the law is what we do out of love and devotion.Kamala said:I find it interesting that most Christians will insist that any of the laws in the Hebrew scriptures don't apply to them, but they still insist that people follow the 10 commandments, which are part of the Hebrew scriptures.
I didn't say you follow the law to be saved. I said I find it interesting that some Christians insist they don't have to follow the 613 Hebrew laws because all the "Old Testament" laws are not applicable to them, but then claim that the 10 commandments are absolute and eternal, and that if the entire nation doesn't follow them and if they're not plastered in every school and courthouse (which itself is an ironic violation of the law against graven images) that the world devolve into mass chaos.roli said:We don't follow the law in order to be saved ,but are saved through faith in Jesus Christ alone,the obedience to the law is what we do out of love and devotion.
The first 4 commandments are irrelevant if not offensive to atheists, the rest are certainly not unique, and open to some interpretation.
Is it offensive to atheists that the commandment is given to a group that they are obviously not a member of?
Moses produced 10 commandments to perpetuate his leadership to Israelites. He needs strong binding rules to do so.
We don't follow the law in order to be saved ,but are saved through faith in Jesus Christ alone,the obedience to the law is what we do out of love and devotion.
I gotta ask which set.
Moses gets the first set of the ten commandments...
This list can be found in Exodus 20:2 to 20:17. After Moses gets these commandments on top of the mountains, he goes down, sees they made a golden calf, and gets upset. he broke the stone tablets, a few people were killed, and then Moses goes back up to the mountain. God tells Moses to get two new tablets, saying, ""I will write on them the words that were on the first tablets."
- I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
- Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me. And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
- Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
- Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
- Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
- Thou shalt not kill.
- Thou shalt not commit adultery.
- Thou shalt not steal.
- Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
- Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his [donkey], nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
So, we expect the second set of Ten Commandments (found in Exodus 34:12 to 34:26) to be the same as the first, right? let's have a look....
I'll leave it to you to decide if they are the same as the first.
- Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee: But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves: For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God: Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice; And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods.
- Thou shalt make thee no molten gods.
- The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep. Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, as I commanded thee, in the time of the month Abib: for in the month Abib thou camest out from Egypt.
- All that openeth the matrix is mine; and every firstling among thy cattle, whether ox or sheep, that is male. But the firstling of an *** thou shalt redeem with a lamb: and if thou redeem him not, then shalt thou break his neck. All the firstborn of thy sons thou shalt redeem. And none shall appear before me empty.
- Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest: in earing time and in harvest thou shalt rest.
- And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end.
- Thrice in the year shall all your menchildren appear before the LORD God, the God of Israel. For I will cast out the nations before thee, and enlarge thy borders: neither shall any man desire thy land, when thou shalt go up to appear before the LORD thy God thrice in the year.
- Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven; neither shall the sacrifice of the feast of the passover be left unto the morning.
- The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the LORD thy God.
- Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk.