Are spelling and grammar lost arts?

[Magic Man]

The Latin influences some of our formalised lexical items but "it is me" has always been acceptable in informal English.

Yes, it has, but the rule is that it's "It is I", which comes from Latin.

No, you're using it because it's atypical. Big difference.

No, I'm using it because it's wrong. I only wish it was still atypical these days. It is an incorrect usage of the word.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'd say it's more the symptom of people ignoring the rule. We still have the rule that you shouldn't end a sentence with a preposition, but it's one no one cares about.

That is how rules die. We have front row seats to watch our language evolve.

Yes, I'm sure for you and some others, that rule trumps everything. However, saying "It's I" doesn't sound odd to me because it's the way it's supposed to be.

Eventually, the way something actually is will become the way it is supposed to be. Tis folly to believe we can control language....I leave that for the French.
There is no point clinging to rules which the vast majority don't & won't observe. I lament the change of "enormity" from meaning "evil" to meaning "great size",
but I can't stop it. So it's one of those words I avoid using in a way which would be correct, but misunderstood.

 

[Magic Man]

That is how rules die. We have front row seats to watch our language evolve.

Anyway, so people are ignoring the rule. It'll still be there 100 years from now, even if people don't abide by it.

Eventually, the way something actually is will become the way it is supposed to be. Tis folly to believe we can control language....I leave that for the French.
There is no point clinging to rules which the vast majority don't & won't observe. I lament the change of "enormity" from meaning "evil" to meaning "great size",
but I can't stop it. So it's one of those words I avoid using in a way which would be correct, but misunderstood.

I have a degree in linguistics. I already understand how language evolves. However, that doesn't change the fact that it's sill to say "It's me", but then say "Who's he?".

 

[Revoltingest]

Anyway, so people are ignoring the rule. It'll still be there 100 years from now, even if people don't abide by it.

In your studies, did you ever see an example of rules changing because of common use?

I have a degree in linguistics. I already understand how language evolves. However, that doesn't change the fact that it's sill to say "It's me", but then say "Who's he?".

Think of it as idiomatic. To give something silly a fancy name makes it legitimate.

 

[Magic Man]

In your studies, did you ever see an example of rules changing because of common use?

Yup, and?

Think of it as idiomatic. To give something silly a fancy name makes it legitimate.

Ah, kind of like "Revoltistan"? (Sorry, I had to.)

 

[Revoltingest]

Yup, and?

There you have it....rules change.

Ah, kind of like "Revoltistan"? (Sorry, I had to.)

Exactly! No one would respect my country if it didn't have a cromulent name.
That's why I didn't choose: Texico, Blanada, Swisherland, Not-so-great Britain, Snotland, Direland or France.

These are even worse names:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/fritolaysia-cuts-off-chiplomatic-relations-with-sn,1846/

 

[Magic Man]

There you have it....rules change.

And?

Exactly! No one would respect my country if it didn't have a cromulent name.

Wait, there are people who respect your country? (Sorry, I'm on a roll now.)

 

[Revoltingest]

And?

QED....spluh!

Wait, there are people who respect your country? (Sorry, I'm on a roll now.)

Let's suppose for a second that Revoltistan is a parody country, & not real. To mock a parody would be the lamest of lame jokes, & hardly "on a roll".
Fortunately for you though, Revoltistan is a highly respected country among those who respect it, & Revoltifarianism is one of the world's great religions.

 

[Vasilisa Jade]

It sounded to me like that was a suggested plan, and that it was for people who don't have an Associate's already. Do they have a different plan for those with Associate's degrees? I would assume that if you already have that, that takes care of a lot of the general education requirements. For my BA, I think I ended up with 60-some credits in Linguistics (my major) out of the 120 total.

I will look into that. If you are right I will feel silly for getting so angry at something I didn't need to have my panties in a wad about.

 

[Revoltingest]

I will look into that. If you are right I will feel silly for getting so angry at something I didn't need to have my panties in a wad about.

Is a degree really necessary for you anyway? Perhaps you you just take the courses you want & skip the letters after your name.

 

[Magic Man]

QED....spluh!

What do you think you've proven?

Let's suppose for a second that Revoltistan is a parody country, & not real. To mock a parody would be the lamest of lame jokes, & hardly "on a roll".

Hey, I never said my jokes were good.

Fortunately for you though, Revoltistan is a highly respected country among those who respect it, & Revoltifarianism is one of the world's great religions.

I'd phrase it differently. I'd say Revoltistan is a highly despised country among those who despise it. And I think Revoltifarianism is dying with the upswing in the popularity of new religious symballism.

 

[Revoltingest]

What do you think you've proven?

That rules change according to popular use.

Hey, I never said my jokes were good.

Woo hoo! Detente we have again!

I'd phrase it differently. I'd say Revoltistan is a highly despised country among those who despise it.

There are anti-Revoltian bigots & forces for evil out there.

And I think Revoltifarianism is dying with the upswing in the popularity of new religious symballism.

Our membership increases by a factor of 10 each year. We're much admired because:
1) No misbehaving clergy in the news.
2) No tithing.
3) No compulsory attendance.
4) Liberal food laws. We permit: bacon, shellfish, alcohol, tobacco, cheesecake, Ding Dongs & cheeseburgers.
Chocolate is even a ceremonial food.
5) We're very permissive as long as you mind your own business & keep children safe. We permit: gay marriage, straight marriage, hateful cartoons, peekaboo vestments, abortion, & SUVs.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Our membership increases by a factor of 10 each year. We're much admired because:
1) No misbehaving clergy in the news.
2) No tithing.
3) No compulsory attendance.
4) Liberal food laws. We permit: bacon, shellfish, alcohol, tobacco, cheesecake, Ding Dongs & cheeseburgers.
Chocolate is even a ceremonial food.
5) We're very permissive as long as you mind your own business & keep children safe. We permit: gay marriage, straight marriage, hateful cartoons, peekaboo vestments, abortion, & SUVs.

That sounds eerily similar to Trampolinism.

 

[Revoltingest]

That sounds eerily similar to Trampolinism.

Trampolinism leaves out peekaboo vestments. Where's the spirituality without those?

 

[Magic Man]

That rules change according to popular use.

Was that at issue?

There are anti-Revoltian bigots & forces for evil out there.

Again, I'd phrase it differently. There are anti-Revoltian rational people out there.

Our membership increases by a factor of 10 each year. We're much admired because:
1) No misbehaving clergy in the news.
2) No tithing.
3) No compulsory attendance.
4) Liberal food laws. We permit: bacon, shellfish, alcohol, tobacco, cheesecake, Ding Dongs & cheeseburgers.

Wait, you eat tobacco? That's gross.

Chocolate is even a ceremonial food.
5) We're very permissive as long as you mind your own business & keep children safe. We permit: gay marriage, straight marriage, hateful cartoons, peekaboo vestments, abortion, & SUVs.

Yes, but do you support midget porn?

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Trampolinism leaves out peekaboo vestments. Where's the spirituality without those?

And your religion leaves out girls-on-trampolines. Where's the enthusiasm and verve without those?

 

[Revoltingest]

Was that at issue?

Yes.

Again, I'd phrase it differently. There are anti-Revoltian rational people out there.

That's typical of the racist, hate mongering, violent, secular humanist, anti-intellectual, fundamentalist, right wing, left wing, moderate wing, moral relativist, cheese eating, surrender monkey elements in your anti-Revoltian cabal.

Wait, you eat tobacco? That's gross.

We got the idea from a Rocky & Bullwinkle episode with tobacco leaf pies. They're really more for throwing than eating.

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[jml03]

Who dat? Who my baby daddy? -- love me some Wayans Brothers

 

[Revoltingest]

And your religion leaves out girls-on-trampolines. Where's the enthusiasm and verve without those?

Don't criticize to quickly....whom do you think wears those tramp-friendly peekaboo vestments?
Certainly not old wizened ole men wearing big hats.

 

[Magic Man]

Yes.

With whom?

That's typical of the racist, hate mongering, violent, secular humanist, anti-intellectual, fundamentalist, right wing, left wing, moderate wing, moral relativist, cheese eating, surrender monkey elements in your anti-Revoltian cabal.

Who are you calling "cheese-eating"?

We got the idea from a Rocky & Bullwinkle episode with tobacco leaf pies. They're really more for throwing than eating.

That's much more acceptable.

Yes, but do you support midget porn?

I see you forgot to answer my most important question. What are you trying to hide?